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"No woman is totally straight"

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PopGoesTheWeevil · 08/11/2015 16:11

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34744903

AIBU to ask you whether this surprises you?

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PacificDogwod · 09/11/2015 19:52

I wonder whether somebody is setting up the equivalent study with male subjects, I wonder? I bet they aren't. And I be the results would be different because so many straight men are conditioned to find anything 'gay' disgusting Hmm

I heard the researcher on the radio today (sadly v much interrupted by RL) and I have to say he sounded like he felt his efforts were v much misrepresented by the media. Quelle surprise!

Crazygirl123 · 09/11/2015 19:57

Could be right. I've met loads and loads of women claiming to be bi and hardly any men

limon · 09/11/2015 22:14

It's bollocks.

Flashbangandgone · 09/11/2015 23:01

On the basis the study is in fact nonsense, I've wondered how porn stars do lesbian scenes? Are the ones that do it, to some extent at least, bi, or are they completely straight and completely faking it?.... And if the latter, how on earth do they do it?

Devora · 09/11/2015 23:04

I think it's called acting, Flashbang Grin

HolgerDanske · 09/11/2015 23:24

Yeah because female heterosexual 'actors' in that situation don't fake it at all Hmm

MrsTerryPratchett · 10/11/2015 01:55

I know loads of bi men. It's the sea people swim in I think.

EBearhug · 10/11/2015 02:29

I do enjoy swimming in the sea, but I don't think it's affected my sexuality.

shadowfax07 · 10/11/2015 03:14

I've said on a few occasions in my life, that i'd quite happily have a sexual relationship with another women, but I've never met one that I fancied enough, and still haven't, at the age of 46.

Maybe that means I'm completely straight, and not destined to have a relationship with a woman, but I'm certainly open to the idea

Flashbangandgone · 10/11/2015 07:26

Yeah because female heterosexual 'actors' in that situation don't fake it at all

Of course I know they're acting and 'faking it' during heterosexual scenes too, but it's one thing doing that when it aligns with your sexuality, but quite another when it doesn't, or at least I would have thought so.

HolgerDanske · 10/11/2015 07:29

Heh sorry I may have sounded a little more annoyed than I actually was...

I can't say I've ever thought about it but I guess it's not a big leap from pretending you like whatever this is over here, to pretending you like that over there.

noeffingidea · 10/11/2015 08:44

flashbang some male porn stars do 'gay for pay'. Whether they are gay, bi or straight is open to debate. I would think they are the only ones who really know.
Working in porn is a job, like any other. Some parts of it will be enjoyable (hopefully), other parts won't. Most people work to pay the bills not for fun.

Devora · 10/11/2015 09:47

You've never met me, shadowfax Wink

But seriously, this is a bit of a circular conversation, because there's so many layers of nature, nurture, experience, conventions and trends that go to make up a person's sexuality. I don't believe any of us can truly claim we know the essence of our sexuality - because that essence doesn't exist. So researchers and theoreticians can go on doing their stuff, but the only sensible thing for the rest of us to do is to accept that everybody's sexual orientation is what they say it is, accept that sometimes people change, and get on and do our stuff.

When I first came out, over 30 years ago, people were always challenging me on it: it's just a phase, but you've had boyfriends, you don't look like a lesbian, you're too feminine to be a lesbian etc. (I think people do this a LOT less now.) So I got kind of deliberately uninterested in any conversation about why people get to be gay, or whether we are all really bisexual etc. We are what we choose to identify as - that'll do for me.

SoftDay · 10/11/2015 10:11

I didn't know the divine Mr. Armitage was gay! Well, that's a load of poo. I always sort of thought, you know, one day......

MoriartyIsMyAngel · 10/11/2015 11:01

I do think it's bollocks. The society we live in today allows for women to be bisexual - actually actively encourages it as popular male fantasy, and that will have an impact on how some women respond.

If straight women as a group decided that gay men were a major turn on (of course, we'd be talking magical porn fantasy gay men, instantly and ego-gratifyingly made straight by the presence of a vagina) straight men would begin to react to that, even sub-consciously.

MrsTerryPratchett · 10/11/2015 14:58

I didn't know the divine Mr. Armitage was gay! Except when he is shown alluring pictures of SoftDay and I. Then his pupils go all dilately. Sounds ridiculous unfortunately.

SoftDay · 10/11/2015 16:03

No, Mrs. T, it doesn't sound ridiculous at all. We will turn you, Mr. Thornton/Mr. Armitage. WE WILL TURN YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

MrsTerryPratchett · 10/11/2015 16:08
Grin
ChiefClerkDrumknott · 10/11/2015 16:38

Grin MrsTP

His alleged quite clearly partner is stunning, what a lucky pair they are Wink

I do think it's bollocks. The society we live in today allows for women to be bisexual - actually actively encourages it as popular male fantasy, and that will have an impact on how some women respond.

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If straight women as a group decided that gay men were a major turn on (of course, we'd be talking magical porn fantasy gay men, instantly and ego-gratifyingly made straight by the presence of a vagina) straight men would begin to react to that, even sub-consciously.

Quite. Although the Armitage/Pace match referred to above is rather hot Blush

batshitlady · 10/11/2015 17:31

I don't want to have sex with women, but now and again I meet a woman who I wouldn't mind snogging.

munkisocks · 10/11/2015 17:47

I didn't know who Richard Armitage was until I looked him up and recognised him from The Hobbit. He does look better without all the beard ha!

This would apply to me tbh... I had a massive crush on Laura Prepon whilst pregnant for some reason. Damn that Orange is the new Black!!

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