Did oyu see that the NY times printed an article about a new sort of food? A sausage roll!

[BrendaandEddie]

WHO KNEW the Yanks didn't have them!?
APparently we eat them on Boxing day, ..servants... something... Downton shit crap.

BUT THEY DONT HAVE THEM

Someone upthread says we don't have proper fishcakes in the UK. Does anyone know what they mean by this, ie what is an 'American Fishcake' .

We (the UK) have the ones that are fish and potato mashed together in breadcrumbs, and the posher versions of these with cheese in the middle (yum) and we also have proper Yorkshire fishcakes, which are a slice of fish between two slices of potato, which is then dipped in batter and deep fried.

No pork pies in regular supermarkets so I buy them at specialty stores.

Living in NYC what I miss is favourite comfort food soft roe: never been able to find it fresh, or tinned except incredibly expensive mail order import. Asked a fishmonger once and he responded incredulously "You mean the milt?" Likewise pork pies, etc, can't afford Myers of Keswick's prices. Oh, also double cream (some arcane rule limits the amount of butterfat).

I once made mince pies for a holiday party we were having and every single American there took one bite and left them. They were not keen

I've had really good fishcakes in the UK so I'm not sure what that post meant either. In the US crabcakes are very popular and also salmon croquettes, which are basically fishcakes. No potato used as filler though; it's usually bread crumbs or cracker crumbs with onion and some egg in the mixture. And in the South a bit (or a lot) of Tabasco sauce.

Milt is soft roe right? I have seen that in the supermarket. Instead of double cream I use heavy cream. Check the label that it doesn't have fats added to it. The cheaper creams are terrible because they are greasy. As far as pork pies goes its not the worst thing in the world that I can't easily buy them at the supermarket. The small ones at Myers are $4 plus tax and more than enough for a meal. Similar sized pies in the UK at the supermarket are not much different in price.

As to milk - in NY/NJ/CT all the farmers supplying Tuscan and most of the supermarkets have signed agreements to not give their herd hormones. The supermarkets don't certify but Tuscan does. Tuscan as most of the contracts for the supermarkets and doesn't discriminate their process so the vast majority of the milk is hormone free.

Surely the Blessed Ina Garten knows about sausage rolls from her many visits to the UK with Geoffrey. But they'd have be GOOD sausage, mind.

My favourite Ina G cultural-confusion moment was the ep where she took her friends to the beach and promised them 'S'mores made from 'amAAAAAAAAAzing special French Graham crackers' that she'd tracked down at enormous expense.

What she revealed with a flourish were dear old bog-standard choc digestives.

We also have fishcakes without potato in the UK Seneca. I forgot about the ones in Thai restaurants, which we have in most towns/cities - these are generally made of salmon, prawns or white fish and chilli and spring onions.

So several types of fishcake, but none of them 'proper'. I have googled but am none the wiser as all the US recipes for fishcakes look just like ours.

I love chocolate digestives, another treat I developed a taste for while living in the UK. They are fairly easy to come by now in the States. But French Graham crackers

I love Ina, but when she came back from one of her trips to the UK and did a Barefoot in London episode, she made her bacon butties with American streaky bacon. Now if anyone ought to be able to find back bacon in the US, it's Ina.

Do they have corned beef?
(recalls student days and corned beef hash)(avoids spam fritter memory)

American corned beef is different to British corned beef mrs. It seems to be more like pastrami

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Ina wouldn't have found it easy to locate back bacon in the Hamptons. There isn't that much pork out on the forks. It is mainly turkey bacon. Lots of Jewish people who don't eat pork so they just don't have the same focus on the pork items in the shops in that area.

Honestly, this country would probably eat triple the amount of pork if it was served more at events. So many of my Jewish friends don't keep kosher but they don't eat pork. It has a huge impact on menus and you often find the only pork product on there is bacon, mainly used in a way where it can be taken away if requested. Certainly most platters of nibbles at weddings and corporate events are pork free here in the CT/NY/NJ area.

Want2bSupermum: could I ask which supermarket/s you've seen milt (roe)? Thanks!

This thread has cleared up a mystery. A friend's SIL came to stay for a couple of months (she's lived in the US for decades) and while my friend was at work one day, the SIL pulled up all of her blackberry bushes and set them on fire. She simply said they were a noxious weed and dangerous to have in a garden with children. We were totally shocked.

blackberries

blackcurrants

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When we go to visit our uncle in Florida, our cases are invariably laden with tins of mushy peas, hp sauce and branston pickle......

He was v disappointed once to have his supply of soda farls and potato bread taken off him when returning there from northern Ireland. Now he just eats his body weight in them whilst here.

Do they have Ribena in the US then, given their apparently pathological hatred of blackcurrants?

I love Branston pickle. That would be good with some New York state extra extra sharp Cheddar.

I have never seen Ribena on sale in the US, but I am pretty sure some specialty stores sell it.

Barbara, American corned beef is what we call salt beef.

Those of you thinking you'll make a killing in New York selling bog standard greggs sausage rolls for eye watering prices, someone has beaten you to it
www.teaandsympathy.com/#!dinner-menu/ccco
$18 for two sausage rolls and beans (plus tax and tip of course)

hags ShopRite in Hoboken. They have it by the sardines either on the very top shelf or on the bottom shelf. Another great place to look is Polish delis. This where I get my berry cordials from. I get the Ikea elderflower cordial (not great but better than nothing).

This is the stuff they had. Also check out amazon. They are awesome for non perishables.

They also sell it at Mitsua on River Road. Its called shirako which is Japanese for Milt. If you go to Chinatown it is probably half the price!

Hags

Butchers block in sunnyside in queens is where you need to go. It's a neighborhood Irish grocery store without the pretentiousness and prices of Myers