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AIBU to expect a barrister to talk properly?

105 replies

justdiscoveredyoucanchangethis · 03/11/2015 00:08

For my work I transcribe court cases, and I just did one where the barrister said "you was" several times and continually said "aks" instead of "ask".

Surely to become a barrister you have to have a high level of education and should not be talking like some kind of teenager from a rough estate? Am I being snooty? It's not that I think only posh people should be barristers but if you choose to go into a profession where your job involves speaking in a very formal context you should learn to speak in the correct way for that job.

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sugar21 · 03/11/2015 00:19

Teenager from rough estate ??
That isn't very nice.

Baconyum · 03/11/2015 00:19

Were they Carribean? Sounds more dialectal tbh Carribean being one where this is normal correct speech. Surely what matters is they achieve the goal for their client?

NotTheSpiceOfLife · 03/11/2015 00:31

Does it really matter? Are they good at their job? Confused

Jollyphonics · 03/11/2015 00:35

YANBU. I would expect a barrister to speak correctly too.

BrideOfWankenstein · 03/11/2015 00:40

YANBU

"Aks" is my pet hate. One of many.

Solo · 03/11/2015 00:47

YANBU. Teachers do it too Shock they fink instead of think! I mean what is going on?!

PaulAnkaTheDog · 03/11/2015 00:51

Good grief, imagine people having local accents! Shocking behaviour. If you wish to appear in a court of law then you better talk with a plum in your mouth. It's the only way to gain respect, don't you know?

Hmm
BreakfastLunchPasta · 03/11/2015 00:53

Yabu.

elementofsurprise · 03/11/2015 01:17

Paul There's a difference between a local accent, or even a local dialect, and not speaking properly. "Aks" could be a Caribbean accent I suppose. But "You was" is just wrong, and not attributed to a specific region.

OTOH it is connected with social class so we're both terrible snobs, OP Wink

60sname · 03/11/2015 02:00

YANBU; it sounds uneducated.

It is patronising to assume that only 'posh people' can use English correctly

Want2bSupermum · 03/11/2015 02:05

I would wonder if English is their first language and, if not, how long they had lived in the country. English is DHs 3rd language and he gets those things right without fail. He has lived in the U.S. for 12 years now. Never lived in the UK but visited customers a lot. He can put on good scouse and Geordie accents.

Baconyum · 03/11/2015 02:36

"But "You was" is just wrong, and not attributed to a specific region."

www.bl.uk/learning/langlit/sounds/regional-voices/grammatical-variation/

Baconyum · 03/11/2015 02:37

It's also historically correct dependant on context.

Atenco · 03/11/2015 03:21

Mmm, I am a translator in Mexico, where all things legal are written. I had to translate documents for a lawyer who had obtained his degree from one of the most expensive private universities in this country and his writing was full of spelling mistakes. To my mind that is unforgiveable. I wouldn't be a quarter so critical of an engineer or a scientist, but a lawyer!

x2boys · 03/11/2015 07:31

Was the barrister young? my uncle is a QC over the years his voice has got increasingly posher[ is that a word?] you would think he had been brought up with higher classes not in a flat over a shop in lancashire!

Boredofthinkingofnewnames · 03/11/2015 07:33

The head at my DCs school says 'you was' and 'free' instead of 'three'. It grates.

SusanIvanova · 03/11/2015 07:53

People around here look to be offended. YANBU OP, as a barrister you should really be speaking formally and in standard English. No one is saying anything about having an accent, aks and you was are simply incorrect not regional.

bronnie98 · 03/11/2015 07:57

YABU. Sometimes it's just a slip of the tongue. I used to read back court transcripts and cringe, as did my friends.

Also "teenager from a rough estate" - don't be so prejudicial.

bronnie98 · 03/11/2015 07:57

I should add - my friends and I are barristers/solicitors.

bruffin · 03/11/2015 08:00

My dh is a south Londoner and cant say "th" We have tried the "thirty thousand feathers" and he cant say it all. I then realised dd has the same impediment when she was telling me about a film called "Four" which I hadn't heard of. She was insisting I must know it and it turned out to be "Thor"
Unfortunately although "Aks" is part of the Caribbean dialect, it has seeped into other dialects in London, when the kids are trying to be cool.

Floggingmolly · 03/11/2015 08:43

You are not being unreasonable. I couldn't take a barrister saying "you was" seriously.

SarahSavesTheDay · 03/11/2015 08:46

You are not being unreasonable. I couldn't take a barrister saying "you was" seriously.

Ditto.

atticusclaw2 · 03/11/2015 08:47

I know a partner in a very large international law firm who says "one, two, free" etc. Its awful and gives really bad impression.

Of course people are free to speak in any way they wish but if they work in law they will be judged.

MeeWhoo · 03/11/2015 08:53

Bruffinyou can ask you DH to say a long f sound in front od a mirror and then place his tongue wherehis lower lip is (ie. Very close to or touching the bottom of his upper teeth) and then continue to say ffffffffff. I'd be surprised if a th sound doesnt come out.

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