to hate it when people write "Xmas"?

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It is, after all, a festival about Christ.

Putting an "x" instead of His name is lazy and disrespectful.
If you don't want a Christian Christmas, refer to the "holidays" instead.

Pip - the wise men brought gifts to the baby Jesus. That is where Christmas comes from.

Well, I use crismas, crimblemouse and xmas.

Which could you find it in your Christian heart to accept?

Cassie, behave! Lions and Christians have long memories you know!

I hate Xmas too OP. Nothing to do with my religious persuasion I just don't like the way it looks or sounds, I'm the same with BBQ......

Christmas doesn't have religious meaning for everyone; for a lot of people it's just a reason to buy stuff and eat lots celebrate family, friends and a spirit of generosity and general defiant cheerfulness at a gloomy time of year.

If you wish to always say and write 'Christmas' then of course that's up to you.

If I wish to say and write 'Xmas' then that's up to me.

I shan't be calling it 'the holidays' although thanks for the suggestion.

Are you my Dad?
As a result all his cards and gifts have 'happy xmas/merry crimble' scrawled all over them. As we find the angst over it so very amusing.

I don't like the word Xmas.

I just don't like the look of it, it looks mean, and a like its going to get angry.

*an intellectual opinion

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Pip - the wise men brought gifts to the baby Jesus. That is where Christmas comes from

But what about it being the 25 th of December what about the turkey, the tree, the Yule log, the ivy wreaths? Oh, they are all prechristian.........

And the story of the nativity is only one tiny wee bit of the bible and written to fit a prophecy.

As for Hallowe'en, that's All Hallows' Eve.

I always read it as Ecksmas as someone up the thread said - I write Christmas because I think it looks nicer, but couldn't care what anyone else does.

The wise men brought gifts to the baby Jesus. This is where Christmas comes from

Good heavens. Do you really think this? I thought most Christians were supposed to be rather more clued up on this these days.

There were "no wise men". The nativity is known to be fictional.

In any event, Christmas is, of course, the modern name given to a very ancient mid winter festival (involving gifts, trees and banquets) that had nothing whatsoever to do with any "wise men" - or any Jesus for that matter.

And "disrespectful" - to who, exactly? Are you being disrespectful to the ancient devotees of Thor when you refer to Thursday?

Sorry, OP - Christmas does not belong to Christians. Never actually has done.

It's not a Christian holiday anyway. It's a bastardized version of the Pagan holiday Yule so that Christians would convert over. Jesus was born sometime in the spring. If you don't like that though, then write out the whole thing, and let other people live and let live.

This again YABU x a billion. Read any one of the thousands of threads about this.

If you want a Christian Christmas, have it in April or whenever the Baby Jesus was born. Leave the December lights, food, holly and ivy, candles, Yule log, Baileys and all the rest to us. We'll call it Festivus.

Oh and stop forcing non-Christian children to have compulsory acts of worship in school. Don't see why we should have to put up with all the bollocks 'because we are a Christian country' then not get the only fun bit.

There were "no wise men".

Well it is very possible there were, as traveling magi were common in the areas at the time. But actually magi which were basically traveling snake oil salesmen or con men, not majestic kings. I think it would be quite interesting if the gifts were fake gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Would put a different spin on it and explain why the family still was relatively poor while Jesus was growing up.

Great idea - I think we should separate Christmas (the religious part) and Festivus (the consumerism bit).

Bit like weddings - the legal bit can be separate from the religious bit.

Pip - dabbling in the occult is about as far away from Christianity as you can get.

As everyone else says, X is a Greek symbol for Christ.

I think non Christians use Chrimbo if they're bothered about using a non religious term.

We'll call it Festivus I want festivus!!! That sounds ace! And like there would be robots! I'm in!

And as a Christian, I don't like how it sounds, but only because it reminds me of jolly phonics 'x' noise, and then I start singing jolly phonics songs to myself. YABU.

We get December, though... That's straight from pre-Christian times.

As with Cosytoaster, tons of Christians (Xians) use an X to mean Christ, and in words like Xmas. I've seen Xopher and Xingle used before now too.

For most weddings, the legal bit is separate from the religious bit.

And more people choose only the legal bit.

Because that's the bit that counts

There will be robots.

Festivus (the consumerism bit). Oi! What about the respecting other people's religions bit?

And you got the first but wrong too, "the deliberately misplaced fairy tale bit".

To be fair most of the Old Testament is all about dabbling with the occult, trading favours with burning bushes, odd and demanding strangers, being transmogrified, etc.

I think I speak on behalf of Maryz everybody when I say, I'd like it if people respected the topics we had on here and filed their inaccurate grumbles accordingly.

Op, are you going to bother acknowledging you've made a mistake with your understanding of the word xmas or just carry on defending your shaky ground?

Peace, love and sausages wrapped in bacon and all that.

Robots and bacon wrapped sausages. I would convert for those.