one born could be banned... is this unreasonable

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i think it is. people can turn over is they dont like it. and i think it gives woman an insight of how things might be when they are in labour.

I do feel that a lot of the mums, particularly very young ones, scream and panic a lot. I've had two children and yes, labour is painful, but I do wonder whether a lot of women have very low pain thresholds.

That's ok. Your post really resonated with me.

I don't understand why women mock other women for screaming during labour. Every labour is different and everyone reacts differently, there are no medals for being as quiet as a mouse during childbirth

I'm not very impressed with the posters mocking women for screaming at 2cm. Every labour is different, some are more painful than others, some are longer than others, some don't progress... why the snarky comments?

Yes, I've been reading through this thread and those comments are really unkind. Before I had a baby I thought the really screamy women on OBEM were being ridiculous. I'd been to NCT classes and was sure that I would have a drug free birth. But when my contractions got so bad I was sure the baby was about to arrive any moment, it turned out I was only about 2 or 3 cms dilated and this agony continued for hours and hours without dilating much further. I ended up needing every type of pain relief the NHS has to offer.

So yeah, everyone really is totally different. I don't even think it's always about subjective pain thresholds either, we are all physiologically different too. I had a smear test over a year later and the nurse noted that my cervix was still raw from the birth, which confirmed my suspicion that internally something went wrong!

when i had my first baby i screamed really bad. and it was the worse pain ever. i was kind of throwing myself about like a tantruming child and screaming in pain. i think i was only a couple cm then. like you say its all different we dont scream for fun. but i found each birth got easyer. still hurts but not as bad. and also i found sometimes the screams/sounds are involuntary.

I havent seen a OBEM where no anaesthetist turned up at all - over about 6hrs. I dont think they would show it as there is an illusion of choice.

I enjoy watching it. That being said I can see why it makes people anxious which is sad. Also fwiw when I was off my face on gas and air when I was having my stillborn twins I was convinced that I was being filmed for the show which made me very very upset. The midwives had to take the gas and air off me to convince me that there were no cameras. I suppose it does help to understand some of the garb too x

also i found sometimes the screams/sounds are involuntary

Yes this was definitely the case for me, I sounded like a demented cow. Not sure I could replicate those noises if I tried.

I enjoy watching it, yes I cry each time baby is born too! Personally I had 4 children before this programme was even made and would have found it informative had it been on during my pregnancies. If people don't like it turns over, banning something because people disagree is silly because there'd be nothing on ever because not everyone likes the same thing ........or am I being stupid?

Mrs 'natural birth coach' may have been one of the fortunate women whose labours didn't include 'hoards of medical staff, machines beeping, midwives shouting 'PUSH!' and mothers screaming in pain' and it's great that she can share her positive birth experiences with apprehensive/anxious mothers-to-be and charge them for it no doubt but to want to censor portrayal of other types of real births is totally unreasonable.
I found One Born Every Minute fairly interesting while pregnant, seeing all the different women and how they handled labour gave me the sense of 'I can do this' before giving birth. Although heavily edited I think the programme shows a variety of birth experiences, from EMCS to waterbirths, with warmth and gentle humour, and is far from the terrifying horrorshow this woman describes.
Incidentally, my labour and childbirth was far, far worse than anything I ever saw on OBEM.

I had my last 2 births filmed for T.V it was brilliant. So glad I did that their moment of entry into this world will be captured 'forever'. It wasn't obem though.

I also agree with the pp saying please stop mocking women screaming at 2cms... If you've ever had a baby be Sunnyside up, at the wrong angle etc that can make an already painful situation a hell of a lot worse... My DDs labour was 4.5 hours just gas and air and easy... Completely spontaneous. She was Sunnyside up to begin with and her turning around was some of the worst pain I have ever felt in my life! My twins were born via an induction (of sorts - different process than if they had been born alive) 6 hours and i needed every pain relief imaginable (none of it worked however other than g&a - some of my pain may have been a bit in my head too as the situation was stressful enough... I'm not sure) my ds who is now 15 days old was 12 days overdue. And was an induced labour with propess... This labour (thankfully my last) was THE most painful I have ever felt, my son was Sunnyside up, his head was in my hip and although I got to 7cms I regressed and went back to 5cms. He got distressed and pooed and was born via emcs...anyone who has been induced KNOWS that that feels a million times worse than a spontaneous labour. It just does. I think the majority of people on obem are there because they are being induced it would be pretty difficult to film if they were waiting for everyone to spontaneously go into labour. Everyone's pain threshold is obviously different. I dont know anyone who has had exactly the same labour and delivery as another person or even a consecutive labour.

anyone who has been induced KNOWS that that feels a million times worse than a spontaneous labour.

Oh yes, this 100%. My induced labour with dd1 was far, far worse than my natural labour with dd2. I made a noise both times but by 5cm with dd1 I was screaming like something out of the exorcist and having an epidural inserted, at 5cm with dd2 I was just being admitted and although the contractions had me collapsing in a heap on the floor they felt like really severe period pains rather than the horror that were induced contractions.

I was induced but I didn't find labour as painful as what I expected and I had back to back contractions for 48 hours and didn't use pain relief through the birth... That might be because I'm a slight headcase though and worked myself up that much before being induced!

The woman across from me was screaming the ward down by time she was 3cm dilated she was so angry with her husband! She was asked would she participate on one born in a different hospital so she changed her hospital!m to the one I was in! I can't imagine being filmed regardless how smooth sailing it is to be honest

Ha ha back to back labour and oxytocin drip = worst fucking agony of my life. No amount of scented candles would have changed that! I would have been screaming at 2cm but I was in too much agony to make a sound.

I completely agree with CheeseCakeOfDreams - I had a ventouse and third degree tear with pelvic floor damage. I've never seen a birth on OBEM as bad as mine (apart from the SD episode). Watching it before labour made me think it would be a piece of piss, that and the bullshit antenatal classes I went to (it's not pain it's more like pressure - yeah ok then).

Frankly if we spent more time empowering and preparing women instead of trying to shield them from things (poor delicate flowers) then we'd all have much more positive outcomes.

Oh and I hate it when people call difficult births "horror" stories like a) they're made up or b) incredibly rare. Recent research showed that only a s number of women don't get permanent and lasting damage to their pelvic floors or sphincter following a vaginal birth. This silly woman should think about that and put her petition away!

anyone who has been induced KNOWS that that feels a million times worse than a spontaneous labour

Not always, I was induced twice and had a normally progressing labour between the two. I didn't notice much pain difference between the induced births and the 'normal' birth TBH, used G&A for all three. In fact DS (my third) I only had a few puffs of G&A because my labour progressed so fast thanks to the induction but it didn't seem much worse. Intense but not more painful if that makes sense. I found my first labour the worst because I was exhausted before I was even induced thanks to two sleepless nights on the antenatal ward.

Everyone has different experiences for each birth and so it's impossible to say 'it will be like this'. I think both telling people it's easy or horrendous are equally bad. OBEM I think is interesting because it does show a range of births. If anything the emphasis I think is on births with some complications just because there is more of a story. The straightforward natural births are over in a few minutes because there's not so much to talk about.

The midwives in OBEM seem so kind and attentive. Not that I experienced unkindness as such, but they definitely didn't take any time to get to know us and there were long gaps when we didn't see anyone - and when we did it was never the same person.

imwithspud, a second labour tends to be easier than the first anyway, so the difference in your case isn't necessarily solely down to the induction.

I had an induction for my first fairly horrendous labour, no induction for my much easier second birth, and an induction for my even easier third birth. So I guess all that tells you is that births are different.

Like Verbena said... it felt like they had no time for me, but I assume they thought "Fuck it, she's going to be ages, it's her first" - 2 hours in hospital, baby born. They didn't say 2 words to me, to be honest.

Gruntled Do you mean labour, delivery or both? What if you lost a load of blood with the first, had severe tearing, got cut, and now have scar tissue inside and outside? It would all just rip back open again and may end up losing even more blood and end up with more tearing than the first time. My labour was quick, but it was the end bit that fucked me up.