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God-bothering at work

456 replies

WhereToSheNow · 25/10/2015 15:40

New MD hired his buddy/neighbour 6 months ago for a few hours a week to act as a Management Consultant.

The Management Consultant, who we call "Pokey" (because he keeps jabbing us in the arm) has some sort of official capacity within the Baptist Church, and his website is all about the application of his faith within business.

I didn't have a problem with that, as he hadn't mentioned religion.... until last week.

He attended a "World Leadership Course" and emailed us his notes, with several quotes about God and Jesus, telling us to read them and "feel free to ask any questions". In a meeting the following day, he asked us what we thought of his email.

I told him that I don't want to be included in emails that reference any religion/god, at which point he became very defensive.

Later that day I received another email where he said that he was sorry if the contents of his previous email had offended me, but that he hoped I would gain some insight that would assist me in my professional or personal life.

AIBU to think that my work should a) be a secular space and b) my personal life is none of his business!

OP posts:
LoveAndHate · 27/10/2015 13:27

Period

Fnar. You're hilarious.

Lweji · 27/10/2015 13:32

hairbrushbedhair

I almost posted about the same passage. Grin

Clearly you are not evangelising, Loveandhate, you are alienating people...

limitedperiodonly · 27/10/2015 13:32

Though people who've evangelised to me have been spectacularly offensive, it's never been been as conscious as Love. Therefore I guess he or she is on a wind up

BoffinMum · 27/10/2015 13:34

Peace and biscuits, people.

BertrandRussell · 27/10/2015 13:36

Oh right. Enough already.

Back under your bridge stone.

Lweji · 27/10/2015 13:43

Pharisees come to mind.

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foragogo · 27/10/2015 13:51

noeff you've neatly encapsulated what I feel about many of life's minor annoyances: evangelical Christians, chuggers, double glazing salespeople, those blokes that come to the door trying to sell you tea towels - if I want God / a god / double-glazing / to give money to a particular charity / a tea towel I am quite capable of organising it myself!

TheSilveryPussycat · 27/10/2015 13:53

Anyone see those programmes about Longleat recently? They had a new manager with some kind of religious basis to his management style - it basically meant he pissed off many of the workers by expecting them to do extra work outside what they were employed for.

hairbrushbedhair · 27/10/2015 14:00

Lweji Grin

hairbrushbedhair · 27/10/2015 14:04

The saddest thing is if LoveandHate is on a wind up, Iv met many like her who do actually exist in my time. It's incredibly sad what religion can do to folks

BertrandRussell · 27/10/2015 14:08

He/she is no more Christian than I am. Just some poor inadequate. Keep an eye out for the next name change.

limitedperiodonly · 27/10/2015 14:15

hairbrush I met someone like LoveandHate. She wasn't on a wind-up. She was deadly serious about her right to upset people in the guise of sharing her love of Jesus with them.

I don't think she gave a shit about anyone else. It was all about storing up points with Jesus.

As I explained in another post, she was part of a Christian group at work with about 10 others in it. They were all good people and very fun-loving as well, which was a surprise because I stupidly expected committed Christians to be po-faced.

It was just her giving the rest of them a bad name. They were quite pissed off about it.

Between you and me, I don't think she grasped the central message of Christianity and for that, I forgive her...

limitedperiodonly · 27/10/2015 14:20
though obviously things have moved on since pre-Christian times.
LoveAndHate · 27/10/2015 14:34

I'm not winding anyone up. Why do the Mumsnet sisterhood encourage women to identify as men, men to identify as women, binary to identify as nothing, Rita Ora to identify as a horny teenage who wasn't abused, but a Christian woman is goaded, mocked, closed down, judged and declared a troll.

I've been accused of judging other Christians by my own standards, by my own moral parameters (I have not), yet I see lesbians and bisexual women on mumsnet judging the trans community all the time (in fact, judging everyone).

Why? Why should this be the case among liberal, feminist 'educated' women? Because you hate the notion of Christ the living God.

I'll bow out now Smile

Lweji · 27/10/2015 14:39

Again, where even to start?

hairbrushbedhair · 27/10/2015 14:43

Limited Grin

Lweji - I know! I went to type and just thought pfft she's no intention of hearing even if it was judgement day itself

LoveAndHate · 27/10/2015 14:49

Look! Can't you tell I'm all ears? Agog, even..

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Lweji · 27/10/2015 14:52

Now I'm stuck watching youtube videos of Monty Python instead of working!

Boosiehs · 27/10/2015 14:53

If that was my workplace I would warn the consultant that pushing personal beliefs in the workplace could be construed as harassment.

What is wrong with the good old fashioned "don't discuss politics or religion in the workplace?"

Loveandhate - you are the one of the least Christian Christians I have ever had the misfortune to come across.

noeffingidea · 27/10/2015 15:16

loveandhate its just your attitude towards evangelising really. No one needs to be told about Christianity or Christ, after all, it's been around long enough.
foragogo said it right really. It's the same as cold calling , just annoying and intrusive.

BelindaBagwash · 27/10/2015 15:40

I am not JW. I was only suggesting that I would find evangelising in the workplace as welcome as visit from JWs. If people want to learn about God they know where churches are and the times of services. I don 't see why they need me to rell them

StarkyTheDirewolf · 27/10/2015 15:52

I'm glad you don't go to my church loveandhate but fuck me, you sound like you could really use a hug.

DannyFishcharge · 27/10/2015 16:06

Loveandhate I knew Jesus once. The bastard wouldn't look me in the eye the next morning. Spreading love indeed. Filthmonger.

lorelei9 · 27/10/2015 16:22

LoveandHate "but a Christian woman is goaded, mocked, closed down, judged and declared a troll."

um...hands up any Christians on this thread? Do you feel goaded, mocked, closed down etc? Or any other thread?

WyldChyld · 27/10/2015 16:23

LoveAndHate, you really are summing up everything that I have ever found to be rotten and poisonous and evil in people who profess to be Christians.

Are your clothes of mixed fibre? Do you keep kosher? Have you a 'blemish' - a flat nose, blindness, lameness, scurvy, a scab, a broken bone - because if you do, you shouldn't go to church? Have you shared your two shirts with all who have none? Have you never uttered any kind of obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joke?

Then how the hell do you claim to be following the Bible?