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to think that if a surgeon refuses to operate until you lose 21/2 stone than you should br offered some support with said weigt loss.

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northernsoul78 · 23/10/2015 14:57

So I need an operation. I am not a fool so know that losing weight makes sense before going under thr knife. So I asked my GP for help. They told me I didn't qualify for help as I don't get free prescriptions. This is a complete turnaround as the surgery used to offer nurse led clinics. It now does Slomming World referrals for people in receipt of free prescriptions.
so whilst waiting to see consultant I managed to lose maybe 10lbs.
I basically saw the Consultant who basically told me to come back in 4 months and they will book op if I have lost the best part of 21/2 stone.
Now I know this is a great incentive to lose weight but they are expecting me to lose more than the recommended 1 to 2lbs per week without support.
yet on the NHs podcast there is a woman on there with a lower BMiI than me who had no major health issues. She didn't want to pay out fow a slimming club so she went to GP and they referred her to dietician and prescribed Orlisat.
So it seems that support is there but not in my case. Obviously I am not asking for medication but I would have hoped they could offer something.
Realise I am probably being unreasonable but just fed up.

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Runningupthathill82 · 26/10/2015 18:29

You don't have to do a lot of exercise to lose weight, you just have to not eat the calories back. And it's tempting to, as exercise can make you bloody hungry.
If you run for an hour a day, even very slowly, so say six miles, that's a 600-ish calorie burn right there. If you're eating 1500 a day then your net calories will be around 900 and you'll lose weight (usually).

There's more to it though. You generally don't see fat distance runners, not just because they burn a lot of calories training, but because they don't eat shite that affects their training.
When I was last in serious training, before I was pregnant this time, I didn't drink much booze and avoided takeaways etc - because I knew I'd feel awful on my morning run if I had curry and wine churning around inside me. And when weekends are taken up with races, you're not trudging around a shopping centre being tempted by giant creamy coffees.

Also, running is easier when you're lighter. If you're a proper runner, there's an incentive to lose weight because you can then run quicker, more easily. I took 3 mins off my 10k time when I lost a stone and a half.

Being surrounded by slim, fit, fellow runners helps too. You don't want to be the fatty slogging along at the back of the pack with chafing thighs. So you do something about it.

So yes, it's not the exercise alone that makes you lose weight (though that's undoubtedly the main part of it), it's the whole lifestyle change that comes with running.
Put simply, you see more fit people at a local fell race than you do in a cinema or shopping centre, so "fit" becomes your new normal.
And on the other hand, if you spend your weekends at soft play or in the shops or whatever, you'll be more likely to think fat is normal, because the slim and fit people are generally off doing their thing.

northernsoul78 · 29/10/2015 21:04

Decided not to hide thread in the end but been awsy from internet. Actually I have lost about 6lbs stone since my original messsge. I do not want Slimming World. I just want some form of supervision as being asked to lose 2lb per week is the top end of safe weight loss.(well actually according to the new scales in the gym its more than that as my scales are wrong)
I have joined my fitness pal and surprise surprise recommended weight loss is .5 kg per week.
I have had to amend my program at the gym scrapping weights but added some interval training and my clothes feel looser already. Just want to ensure I don't lose lean tissue by overdoing it.
Back at gym tomorrow to see how I have done this week.

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northernsoul78 · 29/10/2015 21:08

Also my sibling had aneroxia and bullimia and still isn't fully recovered so I know 1st hand how these things can go wrong. She is currently paying the price of the illness with bone and teeth problems.

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northernsoul78 · 29/10/2015 21:13

Well 10lbs from 1st appointment. 6lbs from 2nd visit which promted original thread.

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gonegrey56 · 29/10/2015 21:31

That is really well done! Good for you . Believe me, I have been there and it is tough . But once the weight is off, you will feel so much better, the surgery can go ahead and I am sure you will see the overall benefits . Good luck to you .

QuintShhhhhh · 29/10/2015 21:43

So, let me get this straight, you cant start a diet because you dont have accurate scales in the house, but you say I don't want scales in the house as I would use them too often

You dont want to pay for slimming world and access scales there.

What do you want?

A magician?

QuintShhhhhh · 29/10/2015 21:46

I just want some form of supervision as being asked to lose 2lb per week is the top end of safe weight loss.

Fuck the scales and fuck the supervision. Eat less and smaller portions. Cut all fizzy drinks, squashes, juices, milk, no biscuits, no chocolate, no crisps. No deep fat dinners and chips. Vegetables, fish and lean meat for dinners. Whole meal bread, youghurt, cereals, fruit. Scrambled eggs. Fill up on protein and nutritions food.

You are several stones overweight, you are hardly going to die from starvation if you lose slightly more than the recommended lbs per week.

HelenaDove · 29/10/2015 21:54

She wont no but she could get gallstones from losing weight too fast. I lost ten stone and seven stone of that was a stone a month for seven months. I got gallstones and two doctors and my surgeon told me it was due to losing weight too fast.

www.empowher.com/gallstones/content/gallstones-caused-rapid-weight-loss

HelenaDove · 29/10/2015 21:56

Oh and to pre empt any assumptions i was on Slimming World NOT a VLCD

northernsoul78 · 30/10/2015 00:32

Since when is losing 10lbs not starting a diet? I am calorie counting and exercising and am going the right way. I am just very aware that my lean tissue is normal and I don't want to lose lean tissue, just fat.

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northernsoul78 · 30/10/2015 00:34

I have solved scales issue as the gym has one I can use.

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HelenaDove · 30/10/2015 00:37

Well done northern Thanks

northernsoul78 · 30/10/2015 00:41

Thank you.helena

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northernsoul78 · 30/10/2015 00:47

And gonegrey

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sylviassecrets · 30/10/2015 10:57

I have lost 24lbs over the same period and when I started my BMI was 26 so only just into the overweight category. I have done it through a low fat, low carb diet and weight training. It is an achievable amount to lose BUT you will have to resist temptation at every turn, you will have to be hungry and it will be hard. You will need to really want it. I am at my initial goal weight now but have decided to continue and lose another 10lbs which I expect to be even harder. Its hard to diet and its hard to be fat, choose your hard!

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northernsoul78 · 30/10/2015 14:00

I used to love doing weights cactus. Sadly it isn't safe for me to them at the moment but hopefully after op I will be able to. Another incentive to lose the weight and get the op.

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AyeAmarok · 30/10/2015 14:40

It's hard to diet and its hard to be fat, choose your hard!

I love this!

suzannecaravaggio · 30/10/2015 15:02

It's hard to diet and its hard to be fat, choose your hard
one of those self help soundbites which is actually rather unhelpful I feel

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ShortandSweeter · 30/10/2015 16:02

YABU
Most people that lose weight are always hungry. That's kind of the point. Stop eating carbs for breakfast and dinner and it will drop off.

itsmeohlord · 30/10/2015 16:06

What support do you want OP. Eat less move more. End of.

HelenaDove · 30/10/2015 16:12

It is very painful to cut portion sizes at first. When i cut mine i had terrible colicky pain for 5 months so ended up dosing myself on paracetamol.

Now i find i cant eat big amounts anymore and nor do i want to.

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