To ask if anyone else has unexplained "physic" moments

[mellowheart]

I can't explain how this happens but my DH will often start singing a song that I've just suddenly thought of in my head. It's often a very obscure type song, definitely not one he's heard recently. It happens immediately after I've thought it. This has also happened with others but much more often with DH. It's like he's picking up my thoughts, itms. Anyone else get similar type things?

We did get rid of it ,I am unsure if the sleep walking stopped when it was gone. It did after that house. I think it did stop soon after but that could also just be my mind connecting things.

I found it creepy Constance You don't have to . Nor do you have to give an opinion on something I shared.

Ouija boards are creepy. I have never used one or seen one being used though.

thistle may I ask you a question? Do you think that this weeks lottery winners get the right numbers by reaching into a parallel universe that is a week ahead and getting an echo?

Thistle you said " It makes me want to find an explanation, not just to dismiss it as a 'coincidence' that can't be explained"

What do you mean by a coincidence that can't be explained. Coincidence is a physical / statistical phenomenon that really happens all the time and IS an explanations for two things happening at the same time.

If we both think of a number between 1-1000 and then say it together...we might say different numbers...you might say 58 and I might say 982. If that happened we would me uninterested in the result.

If I said 523 and you said 523, we would feel all spooked out! We would marvel over how amazing it was that we came up with the same number...we would think 'wow how unlikely was that!'

The answer is that we will say the same number 1 in every 1000 attempts, without any need to consider parallel universes or telepathy. So is that really unlikely?

Well obviously not compared with winning the lottery...which is why I asked if you believe you need to invoke parallel universes to explain someone picking the correct winning lottery numbers. The UK lottery gives the odds of winning as 1 in every 14000000 attempts. So it is 14000 times more likely that you and I would both shout out the same number than that we would pick the winning lottery ticket together.

So if you accept that you don't have to be psychic or accessing parallel universes in order to pick winning lottery numbers...then you don't need to be psychic or accessing parallel universes in order to pick the same random number as someone else.

To address the sauce on cheese on toast incident in the same light...I would make the following estimate of the probability of that happening by chance.

You say you knew your DP was cooking cheese on toast so there is no probability associated with that.

You say you had 9 sauces....so if your DP was choosing at random what to add then there was and 1/9 chance that he would pick chilli.

Now given you TOLD him you wanted Worstershire you would hope that this would substantially decrease the odds of him adding chilli....so what shall we pick? 100 times less likely? (with my DH I am lucky if telling him what to do while cooking makes any difference at all....but I will give your DP the benefit of the doubt.

So you have about 1 in a 1000 chance of getting chilli on cheese.

Now we need the probability of thinking he was going to do it wrong and make something inedible. Again if this was my DH cooking and me in the shower there is about a 1 in 2 chance of me worrying about him doing it wrong and making something disgusting....but lets pretend you trust your DP a lot more in the kitchen than I do mine...so you are very likely to be thinking about what he is doing due to banging around...so how likely are you to think he is doing it wrong? 1 in a 10 times? 1 in a 100 times?

That would give a chance of 1 in 100,000 of you thinking 'Oh no this meal will be horrible' AND him having put chilli on it.

So this is substantially less likely to happen than the shouting out two numbers that match scenario I mentioned but massively more likely than winning the lottery. If you don't need to be psychic to win the lottery then you don't have to be psychic to think your DP is wrecking the meal only to discover he actually is.

I'll catch up with the rest of the thread in a minute (I'm about half way through) but wanted to add mine.

I always know when my mum is ringing. On the landline that is with no caller ID.

I can almost always pinpoint films to the year they were made. Often only ever a year out.

I regularly know if someone is going to ask me something, or tell me something, or if DH is looking for something, I know what it is (might no know where it is though!).

BUT - I don't think any of this is spooky or psychic. I think I just know my mum will call because there is a pattern; I think clothing, mannerisms and language make things easy to recognise; I am good at cold reading people.

I think that deja vu is something where the brain misfires and while it feels like you've seen it before, it's just because what has caused the deja vu is being stored in the wrong memory bank. I also think that people that remember their dreams and then years (or however long) later tell you the exact same thing happened are remembering a dream and adding in the little bits as fact - like the dress, or the weather. Our brains like to fill in the blanks.

Having said that, I really enjoy reading all of these!

That would give a chance of 1 in 100,000 of you thinking 'Oh no this meal will be horrible' AND him having put chilli on it.

Unless he's messed up her toast before. Or she smelled the chili because scents don't just stay in the kitchen. Or she just knows him well enough to know that he's probably making the type of toast that he likes while forgetting about her preference. That brings the number down pretty drastically too.

Any coincidence with a partner or spouse can usually be put down to living with them everyday and knowing their quirks better than anyone.

This afternoon, I ran 100 metres in 4 seconds. I know it sounds impossible, and unfortunately, I don't have any proof, so you'll just have to take my word for it. I was standing at the start, I remember running, and then I was at the finish line. Four seconds. That's how it happened.

I refuse to test this again or have anyone measure my running ability, but I will call anyone who disagrees will me a killjoy.

Unless he's messed up her toast before. Or she smelled the chili because scents don't just stay in the kitchen. Or she just knows him well enough to know that he's probably making the type of toast that he likes while forgetting about her preference. That brings the number down pretty drastically too.

One thought I had was that if she heard him messing with the grill pan she might also have heard him pick up/open the chili sauce bottle, or alternatively didn't hear him use the Worcester sauce bottle. You can hear or notice a lack of a lot of things without being aware that you're aware of these things (and here is where the conversation comes back to Derren Brown).

Plus I find it difficult to take the listing of mayo and tartare sauce as feasible options on cheese on toast particularly seriously.

What I can't understand is why a ouija board in the loft would make a person sleepwalk?

Maybe the negative energy from the distressed souls trapped in the other world were drawing her to them while she slept...

What I can't understand is the assumption that the sleepwalking stopped under the loft hatch because of something to do with the loft hatch rather than because the person's unconscious brain was aware of the downsides to making a sleeping person attempt to walk down stairs... (or alternatively, the person's unconscious brain being unable to make a decision as to where to go from there - when faced with the choice that is usually presented by a landing).

You don't have to understand or mock. I said it was more than likely coincidence. Not that I should have to explain my self to self righteous

-twats- previous posters anyway.

I suspect that people who insist on interpreting suggestions as to potential flaws in something they have said and alternative explanations as 'mockery' know exactly how tenuous their position is.

I don't mind suggestion. What I don't like is the tone of superiority and mockery expressed by yourself and previous posters.

That's the point, though, isn't it. Tell me where the tone of superiority and mockery was in the post you responded to - the one at 23:26.

There is a big difference between a post having a tone of superiority and mockery and a post making you feel stupid simply because it draws attention to alternate explanations of something that make your suggestion seem a bit daft. If (when) I say something stupid and someone catches me at it, I can sometimes feel quite embarrassed and regret saying it/not looking into it more beforehand, and can get a little pissed off - at myself, though. Not at the other person for pointing it out, not really.

Presumably there is another part of this site where people can have this sort of thread populated exclusively by people who will reply with 'oooh great thread OP' and 'oooh yeah that is creepy', if that is the sort of thing you're looking for.

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I doubt the people sharing experiences on this thread feel stupid by anything you or the other stompers have posted Smillas.

I think you may be projecting a tiny bit.

There is 'The Unexplained' topic, but we only say 'Oooh' on Fridays, It's bad luck otherwise.

I have had lots of things happen.

I knew my family member had unexpectedly died. I had a dream about it which was nothing like a normal dream. Woke up and told my mum. I was very young at the time and it scared me for ages. I also woke my mum up one morning to tell her some of the pets had escaped. She told me they couldn't have done because she made sure the cage was secure. When she got up they were actually running around and out of the cage.

I also dreamt that my pet had died, unexpectedly and it had. The dreams were not the usual dreams, they were hugely different and I just knew it was real.

I also knew when a family member had her baby, the exact time, weight and sex. Baby was early, we didn't know she was in labour and again I woke up my mum to tell her and she asked me if it was one of my 'real dreams' and I knew it was. Got home from school to be told I was spot on.

I could go on and on. Not just dreams but other experiences as well. I will stop there though.

Funnily enough I was a spiritualist and I'm now an agnostic, bordering on atheist.

My experiences were very real and very scary. I knew the difference between a normal dream and one that was going to be true. I don't know why they happened but unless you have experienced the oddness of a dream that has come true you won't believe it or understand it. The dreams are nothing like normal dreams and they are actually scary and unsettling. It wasn't a case that I dream every night and some just happened to come true, I wouldn't really class it as a dream as such because they don't compare.

I don't claim to be psychic and I no longer believe in an afterlife. I do believe in the power of energy though, which is another thread entirely.

BTW I think there probably is a logical reason for my experiences somewhere.

My mum doesn't understand how I can feel that way with the experiences I have had but I am still skeptic.

I can't deny that the dreams were crazily different and it is very hard to think of a logical reason for them but some of my experiences can be put down to cognitive bias for sure.

Rather than saying you couldn't understand the assumption,it would have been kinder to say I think the reason for it is. It is all about the wording. Maybe I am projecting and to be honest your post wasn't that bad at all.
Previous posters have been insulting so I am some what defensive.

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Ok. Weird one here. (I prefer to have an explanation for these 'happenings' but here goes. Feel free to help me out)

My dad died this year aged 90. His youngest GK - my twins aged 8 - and next comes niece aged 20.
Niece is on bus on way to work and old lady beckons her over to empty seat next to her. Chit chat, bad weather etc. Then she says ' It's a shame (let's call him Albert) Albert missed his 91st birthday last month. He'll be so proud when you have twins in 3 years time as it means the boys will have someone to play with.' Woo.

My niece doesn't look old enough to have a 90 yr old grandad. (we didn't put his obituary in the local papers so only family and close friends knew)

For merl and U2, I totally get what you mean about 'different' dreams. I have had a dozen or so in my life. Really different and horribly heavy feeling. I wake up shaking and dread them coming true. Mine haven't come true at all though (yet!). I have also had 3 or 4 occasions of random people talking to me on the train rather than bus. Again, spooky attempts to tell me what me life is/will be. Again, none of them have hit the mark. My DD was a real one for random spooky sounding pronouncements as well. Did the whole, 'before I was in your tummy I was'...spiel and lots of 'I'm worried about the little boy' that no one else can see. Thank goodness we live in a new build house or the whole 'violent history of a place' thing could have easily gotten to us too!

I am one of thousands of millions of people who have had the same kind of experiences as the people on this thread, but have not happened to have had those experiences line up with real life.

So it is easy for me to see my dreams, random strangers conversations and toddler pronouncements as just what they are - random streams of consciousness.

It is so very much harder for the tiny few who encounter statistical hits with their actual experience to make peace with it just being the inevitable consequence of large number statistics.

I do think it is a shame that people who don't have a spooky story (because all their dreams, weird moments etc. didn't happen to then come true) are unwelcome on threads like this - because our story is the same as yours - just with a slightly different ending.

If scientists and drug manufacturers only reported the positive trials and ignored the negative ones we would have very serious problems, and in fact do because of this very problem of under-reporting of uninteresting data!

I like hearing both sides in a civil way not being insulting or demeaning.

Dh will often say something similar to what I'm thinking, or I'll come out with something and he'll be about to say something similar. Or one of us will start singing a song the other had in our head.

I think it's because we know each other too well and spend so much time together.

Once I was sat on my bed reading and suddenly thought how horrible it would be if a spider landed in the middle of the bed. The next day, reading again, I looked up from my book to see a small spider abseiling down from the light towards my feet. (He didn't make it to the middle of the bed though as I threw the book at him)

The singing thing happened again this morning, DH started humming this obscure song which I think was from some old musical, it's just something you never hear, and I was uncannily thinking it in my head. I know we know each other very well but how does that account for him picking up on the obscure song in my head. I wish I'd wrote it down now because I can't remember the song but it's definitely never played on the radio, not that we listen to the radio anyway. Telepathy?

mellow it could be that you both saw or heard something similar to the musical subconsciously or saw something that reminded you of the singer or actor.