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To ask if anyone else has unexplained "physic" moments

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mellowheart · 20/10/2015 13:50

I can't explain how this happens but my DH will often start singing a song that I've just suddenly thought of in my head. It's often a very obscure type song, definitely not one he's heard recently. It happens immediately after I've thought it. This has also happened with others but much more often with DH. It's like he's picking up my thoughts, itms. Anyone else get similar type things?

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laughingatweather · 22/10/2015 19:40

We live in a culture which accepts some aspects of the paranormal such as clairvoyance or ghosts so it's ok to believe in it and therefore people that say it is impossible are not being open - minded or can't accept that 'not everything can be explained'.

And not everything can be but it doesn't mean that psychic abilities or ghosts exist. But our culture says they might so it's acceptable. There are celebrity psychics and programmes like ghost hunters or most haunted.

Other cultures believe in witchcraft, demonic possession and zombies. If anyone came on here and said they thought their neighbour was a witch or their child was possessed by a demon we would say no. Absolutely not. It doesn't exist so three cats dying in your road that the witch said she cursed or your child's bizarre behaviour cannot possibly be demonic possession because those things don't exist. There must be another explanation.

But because as a culture many of us believe ghosts or psychics can exist, we're open to that explanation.

It doesn't make it valid or true. And saying it didn't happen or wasn't real is no more offensive than saying demonic possession or withcraft isn't real.

SmillasSenseOfSnow · 22/10/2015 19:44

And saying it didn't happen or wasn't real is no more offensive than saying demonic possession or withcraft isn't real.

No, but apparently it's 'stomping', 'scoffing' and 'mocking'.

MistressMerryWeather · 22/10/2015 19:47

Smilas, can you seriously say there has been no scoffing from stompers 'non-believers' on this thread?

BugritAndTidyup · 22/10/2015 19:55

Some of the early posts were pretty rude, but my own post wasn't intended in a spirit of mockery (and I hadnt RTFT. Aside from one or two rude posts early on its been relatively polite.

FWIW I find rational explanations for stories in this thread far more fascinating and magical then the rather tedious (to me) idea that they're all down to psychic ability.

So it's a bit unfair to say the sceptics on this thread are just miserable killjoys. The tricks and techniques used by cold readers for example are fascinating.

SagaNorensLeatherTrousers · 22/10/2015 19:56

I think it's fine to go "I don't believe this can happen" and state your reasons in a nice way. It's the smug, HAHAHAHAHAs and general attempts to make others look or feel stupid for their experiences or beliefs that is yeah, pretty nasty really.

MistressMerryWeather · 22/10/2015 20:05

I'm not suggesting anyone is a miserable killjoy, If this were a thread asking for scientific explanations to woo explanation I would be fascinated.

But it is clearly one of those threads where people just want to share/read experiences without any big debate IYSWIM? I think they should be allowed too.

MistressMerryWeather · 22/10/2015 20:06

Explanation, explanation? :o

Woo experiences

SmillasSenseOfSnow · 22/10/2015 20:22

Oh, I would agree that there have been some posts that have made no attempt to hide their lack of time for this kind of thing. I admit I personally have less tolerance and understanding than I could do with having for people who, for various reasons, cannot (yet?) see how daft certain things are in the face of the available evidence.

And I know that that is going to be interpreted as smug or condescending or superior by some people. Because disagreeing and knowing you're right, even with the benefit of actual evidence and knowledge behind you, is seen as a dreadful faux pas in this kind of discussion.

I'm just not sure why so many people have to go from viewing it as a dissenting voice, to interpreting it as a direct criticism of their opinion, to interpreting it as a direct criticism of them personally, to taking it as an excuse to lash out at others (without use of actual argument - just attempts to 'shame' people into leaving the thread and taking their 'logic' and 'rational explanations' with them).

I'd rather be a 'fun sponge' than steadfastly argue for believing in something in the face of all evidence, simply because I like believing in nonsense as a kind of hobby.

To anyone who believes in this kind of stuff because they honestly haven't ever seen logical explanations of any kind that would make them start thinking about these things far more critically: my irritation is not with you. And like a PP (or two), I recommend Derren Brown for a fascinating intro to how some of this stuff can work.

SagaNorensLeatherTrousers · 22/10/2015 20:32

I've read Derren Brown and watched a lot of his stuff. I find him very fascinating. I practiced one of his memorisation methods in fact. Still doesn't make me think differently about/judge people's experiences that have no explanation to them. Like people dreaming about people talking to them, for example, I don't recall Derren having an explanation for everything "woo" in the world.

Senpai · 22/10/2015 20:34

Yeah, but Smillas it's sort of like going up to a Christian and saying "Well there's books about how real Superman is, does that mean he's a real guy?" or "I believe in unicorns, ergo they must be real".

It's just pointlessly antagonistic, and believing in woo isn't hurting anyone anymore than a child believing in Santa is.

I don't believe in supernatural. But I still find odd stories interesting.

Justmyluck1 · 22/10/2015 20:41

Fuck the ones who mock and take the piss. They are either frightened of this or have never experienced anything like I did with my dd or as others have stated.

Still before it happened to me I would have been sceptical but thankfully not a dick head so wouldn't have called posters 'snowflakes' and accused them of wanting to be special

I have been on mumsnet for years and have seen some nasty things but some posters on here have mocked people's most personal
And dreadful experiences. New low.

Shameful.

MistressMerryWeather · 22/10/2015 20:42

It's just pointlessly antagonistic, and believing in woo isn't hurting anyone anymore than a child believing in Santa is.

Exactly.

If people are not asking if this stuff is real, why do you feel the need to tell them it's not?

Do you really think you'll change their mind?

BugritAndTidyup · 22/10/2015 20:43

I think believing in this stuff can be damaging actually. It's not like mediums never take advantage of grieving people by using their beliefs to manipulate them for their own gain.

And faith healers? I know it's not quite the same thing but there was that faith healer James Randi debunked, pretending to heal genuine illnesses, encouraging people to throw away their medications.

There are real dangers out there when you don't view the world with a rational mindset and pretending that it's all fun and no one gets hurt ignores the fact that actually yes, people can and do get hurt.

bumbleymummy · 22/10/2015 20:45

Yep, you can find things interesting to read/listen to without having to try to figure out exactly why or how it happened.

I don't know...it's kind of like going to a magic show... you can just enjoy it without trying to figure out how the magician is doing all the tricks. (Even though that is interesting in its own way as well)

Greengardenpixie · 22/10/2015 20:48

I do this loads..does anyone else?
I see someone in the supermarket that looks likes someone i know but haven't seen for a while. I know its not them but they remind me of that person. I then bump into the person i haven't seen for a while either on that day or a few days later. I am always shocked.
This has happened to me so many times!!!
I have no explanation for it.

Many years ago a lost a book i needed for science. Searched everywhere for it. I dream't it was at the back of my dressing table. I found it there when i woke up.

SagaNorensLeatherTrousers · 22/10/2015 20:49

I think con-artists and people sharing their own personal experiences are two very different things.

MistressMerryWeather · 22/10/2015 20:49

But this thread isn't about faith healers or profiting psychics.

It's about personal, unexplained experiences. Again, sharing/reading each others stories.

No one needs protecting against charlatans that I can see.

Greengardenpixie · 22/10/2015 20:52

Can we get back to the thread please?
Its interesting!

I very often think of my older ds's. They then phone!

BugritAndTidyup · 22/10/2015 20:56

I was responding to Senpai who said believing in woo never hurt anyone. I was making the point that it can and does and I stick by that.

But fair enough if you don't want sceptical explanations, and I'm going to duck out of this thread now. (That sounds snarkier than I mean it to, sorry)

It's a shame it kicked off so much in the beginning: it might otherwise have gone very differently. Goodnight everyone and if anyone has a rational explanation for my Swarzeneggar story is love to hear it.

CactusAnnie · 22/10/2015 21:14

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SagaNorensLeatherTrousers · 22/10/2015 21:26

You make it seem as if all of these brilliant explanations have solved every experience on the thread and provide concrete evidence that we're all a bunch of unaccepting, ignorant idiots, though.

They haven't, we aren't. HTH.

MistressMerryWeather · 22/10/2015 21:30

What Saga said.

CactusAnnie · 22/10/2015 21:32

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MistressMerryWeather · 22/10/2015 21:39

Say yes Saga.

You and your DH have shook up the foundations of scientific laws with a cheese toastie.

Wouldn't that be marvelous. :o

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