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omg at britains most shameless mum

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PainAuChocolat23 · 19/10/2015 21:41

Now im in no way bashing benefits. I am a mum to my wee boy and am currently on benefits and its bloody hard going but i manage as best i can.
But watching this programme im watching with shock, it really isnt nice viewing. There are people using food banks and their 6yr old got a petrol quad for his birthday Shock the impression that i got from this is that they seem to be proud of the life they have on benefits and seemed gloaty. Now i know i may get flamed for my views but people on benefits get a hard enough time without cases like this tarring us all with the same brush

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ExitPursuedByABear · 19/10/2015 22:05

So who is deserving of welfare and who isn't? Is there a test?

KatharineClifton · 19/10/2015 22:05

I listened to this earlier, it actually is representative www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06cy6g1

fakenamefornow · 19/10/2015 22:06

Also, it would panic me to have that many children and have to rely on the government to decide how much I can have to support them, knowing at any minute that support could be withdrawn

I think the Gov is a lot more reliable than many other income sources. If I was her I'd rather rely on that than a zero hours contract. With regard to all the money she seems to have to spend on birthdays/holidays etc maybe the father's of her children pay child support (grasps at straws). Apparently the Gov disregards this when calculating benefits because it's so unreliable.

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msgrinch · 19/10/2015 22:06

She's a skanky dirt bag, smoking whilst pregnant and around her children proved that! That and the state of her house. Grim.

IsabellaofFrance · 19/10/2015 22:07

Maybe the producers strip the wall first.

I agree - I grew up on a council estate and have never seen a bare room like that left for longer than it took to decorate it.

Birdsgottafly · 19/10/2015 22:07

I watched it and saw a dedicated Mum, spend a good amount of the family budget on her children (which also helps the economy/community.

I worked in Social Care and CP and know how much having one child in Foster Care, or what the adoption system costs to run, so I say, well done to people who can parent.

I live in Liverpool, up the road from where they live and the reality is that unless you have a few children and are topped up by TC, or work illegally, the type of job the Father has taken, doesn't pay enough.

The family seem to be doing well, in every sense. I don't see an issue.

JeanneDeMontbaston · 19/10/2015 22:08

mrsg, you don't think calling someone 'skanky' proves anything about you?

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PainAuChocolat23 · 19/10/2015 22:08

usual bit harsh? Im not a thicko by any means

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Oswin · 19/10/2015 22:10

Yep amazon, these houses on the same type of program's all have suspiciously similar features.

I also live on a council estate, know plenty of people on benefits, yet I've never seen a house like the ones on these program's.

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PainAuChocolat23 · 19/10/2015 22:10

mrsg my big sister smoked during her pregnancy and whilst i may not of approved it was her choice it by no means makes her skanky

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JeanneDeMontbaston · 19/10/2015 22:10

exit - sorry, if that was addressed to me, no, you're right, I think everyone is 'deserving'.

I was trying to make the point that, even if you believe some people are cheating the system, we need a system that makes basic living necessities available to everyone. If someone sets out to cheat that, so be it. The existence of a few cheats doesn't disprove the value of the system - and if it did, we'd have got rid of the stock market long ago.

StrawberryTeaLeaf · 19/10/2015 22:11

Which abortion case was that Jeanne? (I'm trying to work out how to google it from your description and failing Smile )

BrandNewAndImproved · 19/10/2015 22:11

I really want them to start making programs on life of a ceo tax evader.

If people watched them pissing up money that should of been paid into the system it would even the shit benefit bashing TV we have.

msgrinch · 19/10/2015 22:13

Smoking whilst heavily pregnant is skanky! Says nothing at all about me, most people (myself included) give up whilst pregnant.

ouryve · 19/10/2015 22:13

The boys' room had half stripped wallpaper, for a while.

The result of a boy with ASD and a penchant for picking at things.

We've taken the paper off and painted the bare wall and he just picks holes in the plaster, now.

I don't live in a council house.

fakenamefornow · 19/10/2015 22:13

know how much having one child in Foster Care, or what the adoption system costs to run, so I say, well done to people who can parent

I agreed with most of what you said, but this ? is ridiculas. Seems like you are saying well done for raising you own children and not having them in care.

IsabellaofFrance · 19/10/2015 22:14

Wanted. Not very bright people to appear on TV show where we will make them out to be lazy and feckless.

Must be on loads of benefits and have at least one room that is stripped of wallpaper.

Maybe the adverts are like this!

JeanneDeMontbaston · 19/10/2015 22:15

Strawberry - I meant the one that's been on the news and in all the papers.

Here's the report. www.warwickshire.gov.uk/wscb-seriouscasereview

msg - no, it says a lot about you, none of it good. Hmm

Birdsgottafly · 19/10/2015 22:16

""I agree, even if you can support them having so many children is iresponsible and selfish."

The Mother was partly bought up in Care and first got pregnant whilst homeless, at 16. She has talked about "wanting the family she never had". A lot of the Parents of these really big families have similar backgrounds.

If the child/Young Persons services where better funded and they got appropriate help, perhaps they would make different choices.

It's very rare that Fostor Care children (and Adopted) are onlys.

There's many a Father who has had as many children and abandoned them.

CharityBarnum · 19/10/2015 22:19

I read the thread title as Britain's Most Shameless Man and immediately assumed it was about one of the many many knobbers who support none of their children financially or practically.

But no, it's a woman who is raising her children Shock

DioneTheDiabolist · 19/10/2015 22:25

OP YABU to watch such vile propaganda. The Divide and Conquer tactic is much in use in Britain today.Angry

IonaNE · 19/10/2015 22:26

I guess there's a few people who are happy to live on benefits for the rest of their lives. Doesn't look like too much fun though does it?.
Well, I work full time in an office, commute by car and earn exactly as much as pure existence costs (=I earn enough so I can live so I can work). If I was on benefits, I would be in the exact same position - only I would not lose 9 hrs of my life every weekday. I could walk on the beach every day, write a novel, practise playing my flute, learn a third (and fourth) foreign language (free resources at my library)... none of this would cost money but at present I don't have the time. Trouble is, when I was on (contribution based) JSA after returning from extended travel, the Job Centre kept hassling me to find a job. What I wonder about it how the people who are permanently on benefits can avoid this. As for "not much fun", well, it depends on what you make of it.

Birdsgottafly · 19/10/2015 22:27

Fake, my point was that it takes a hell of a lot to run a house with 12 children unit (as well as being pregnant/giving birth).

There's many people who cost the country way more than this family does, by the choices they make.

I think that this trend in what makes good television is going to continue.

To prove that you aren't one of the suggested "thickos", think their situation through, then view it in terms of what is happening in wider society and globally.

People really shouldn't be concerned about this, at all.

BastardGoDarkly · 19/10/2015 22:28

BrandNew exactly!