To think most NHS GPs are underpaid

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Everyone seems to think that gp s all earn 150k. However both of the gp s I know "only" earn about 10k a day that they work and both have been doing the job 6-8 years.

I say only as quite frankly for the amount of training they have, the serious job they have and the consequences if they get something wrong then it doesn't seem like much. I earn a similar amount once my bonus is added in and I don't have an important job at all and has very little responsibility.

Both the gp s I know do just want to quit, one has recently been through a court case by a bereaved family and was cleared of anything. But has taken up so much of her free time and caused her stress to go through the roof.

A 24 year old cannot be a GP. After leaving school at 18 a doctor trains for 5 or 6 years at medical school, then 2 years' foundation training, then the GPS vocational training scheme takes 3 years. So, the youngest a GP could be is 28.

So, a 24 or a 26 could not be qualified as a GP.

The full time GPs I know make about £80k. That's a decent salary I think. The practice partners earn more. Those who dabble in Botox in the evenings get more money again from this private work. They all work pretty hard and feel the pressure, but they're well remunerated and none has ever complained to me about dosh.

It's not at all cushy, she's working really hard and is totally exhausted.

Surely no one thinks it's cushy?

Thats a lot of money compared to most jobs. There are plenty of jobs that could or should be paid more. For example, firefighters who risk their lives daily.

Itsmine your post is spectacularly ill informed. Along with many others on this thread perhaps you could stop making sweeping statements about a profession you know next to nothing about.

Saucony even the first years don't earn 22K - the average FY1 doctor will take hone approx 28-31k because of banding. It's funny how they don't mention that, isn't it.

Itsmine are you Jeremy Hunt?

Itsmine your entire post is nonsense. Alwayssunny has done a great job of explaining where you are wrong (pretty much your whole first post).
Unless you are a GP - which I seriously doubt - how could you have any idea what the job actually entails?

"It is a totally different level of responsibility to many many jobs, one that is rarely appreciated and is cut down by ridiculous statements like those above."

And they are paid accordingly! I have no issue with doctor's being paid what they do. I take issue with the twisting of certain information to sway public opinion,

Sorry Jeffsan, numbers still don't add up
either she lies about her age or your friend boasts about her stage and salary a bit?

Medical school: 5 or 6 years, entry age rarely under 18 takes you to 23-24 on qualification
Foundation years 2 years so that's you to 25-26 by the time you are through that
then GP training assuming you move straight into it from foundation is another 3 years (soon to be longer) so 28-29 by the time you are out
then you have to be employed by (and potentially buy in as a partner eg have the funds to take on a share of the business)

Itsmine if you say you have "worked with GPs" and stand by your first post you must have astoundingly poor observational skills as your comments on workload bear no resemblance to reality.
You sound very bitter. I'm not sure why you care so much what other people earn for doing a job you clearly can't even comprehend.

Well how would anyone stay in a profession that the public seem to love to hate.

Is not that we hate them, we just hate the cries of poverty radiating from them at the moment.

Anecdotally, my GP is shit so I don't bother going anymore, I just ask a nurse.

Most don't give much of a shit about the money

They should stop complaining about it then.

I imagine that being a GP is much like any other public facing and front line role. Some days you get paid too much and other days you really don't get paid enough. My GP is fantastic and always looks relieved to see me which makes me wonder who else she has been dealing with. I wouldn't do her job.

Contractor GPs on average earn over £100k, but salaried GPs only around £60k.

I don't like that these threads degrade the hard work of many GPs/doctors. I have friends who are doctors, several who are GPs. They deserve their money. Then again, they wouldn't whine unlike some on here about their wagea. I would support the Junior Doctors' cause more if there was less focus on money and more focus on what most people really care about; patient care.