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To ask those who voted for the conservatives ....

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ginorwine · 19/10/2015 07:28

Reading the threads here there is much criticism about conservative policy .
A lot of people must have voted for them .
Where are they on mums net ?
And on threads such as those re the w t c cuts are they not representing their views as it was clear this would happen ?
I can tell that they may be slated but surley differing views can be expressed so long as it doesn't get nasty - a know that feeling run high but surley ppl can do so .
So to Tory voters -is it how you anticipated .what are your views ?

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ginorwine · 19/10/2015 07:36

Ps yes I do want to know what their views are .surley some on here voted for them and I am intrested in their views and why they are a lesser spotted species as it were .

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Mrsmorton · 19/10/2015 07:41
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ThroughThickAndThin01 · 19/10/2015 07:47

Yeah right. Don't expect many replies OP.

SugarPlumTree · 19/10/2015 07:49

I have never and will never vote for them but found at this election that some of my friends did. I don't think any of them particularly wanted to but in their minds the conservatives were a better risk for a more stable economy. Two of them have DH's who run their own companies and they felt the companies would be safer under them.

Don't think they really thought about where cuts to things like wtc would come from as it won't affect them or anyone they know. None of them use Internet forums so won't be along to give their views. The impact on the NHS is starting to filter through but there is an air of resignation about it.

AuntieStella · 19/10/2015 07:49

MN isn't a particularly representative sample.

More people, in the country are tight wing. Even in Scotland, the Tories came second across the whole nation.

So why absent here? I put it down to the level of name-calling, astroturfing, amd general hostility etc which and has driven posters away from threads. There were threads about this after the election, and I really thought there were some (anti-Tory) posters who just didn't get that what they thought was neutral comment was seen as deeply insulting by many. And that divide persists.

After all, how many people are going to be clicking on this, expecting to see ".. how you can sleep at night?" Or "...how you can follow a particular religion?" Because that's what they've seen a lot of.

It's a pity, really. Because the political threads used to be actual debate, and I found that much more interesting.

Moodyblue1 · 19/10/2015 07:51

Loads of people on here around the time of the election and since said they had voted or were going to vote the Tories. I don't see what the issue is, they obviously voted for them as they think they are the best party to run the country.

Marue · 19/10/2015 07:51

I've never voted for them.

But I do support WTC cuts. Where I work its difficult to get some people to do overtime or go for a promotion as they will be no better off and will cause trouble with WTC. That can't be a good thing.

Marue · 19/10/2015 07:52

Oh no, have I fallen for a wright show researcher? Blush

SaucyJack · 19/10/2015 07:55

The few people I know who did vote Tory are from the older generation, and I think they don't understand that times have changed from when you had one job for life and that that one job paid enough for a mortgage, and a family, and a decent pension to retire on.

I don't think they vote Tory to be spiteful; they just naively believe that if you "work hard" and do the "right thing" then it will afford you the same lifestyle that it did 40 years ago.

They'd get a fecking shock now tho I reckon, trying to buy those same houses in today's world.

captainproton · 19/10/2015 07:55

I don't think it's just mumsnet. All the polls seemed to show we were headed for a hung parliament. I think there are some people who openly say one thing and secretly do another in the voting booth.

I know that some people voted purely to prevent Miliband labour/SNP coalition fearing SNP being in government. This is what I have been told whether it is genuinely why they voted Blue I don't know. But if that is the case and a labour/SNP coalition was just a step too far towards left-wing socialism for the majority of this country's voters, then I really don't think Corbyn has got a cat in hells chance of winning a GE.

meditrina · 19/10/2015 07:57

"The impact on the NHS is starting to filter through but there is an air of resignation about it."

Yes, if PFIs didn't have to be paid for then there would be far more cash for other things in NHS budgets.

Also, if Labour has not introduced the principle of private provision into NHS, we could not be seeing expansion.

And, although Corbyn might change it in future, a Labour Party who at the last election would not undertake to reverse a single cut. And who promised 'less austerity' (=some cuts, but because it's us you'll see it differently) over the longer term (=without even a target for when it might be back on course)

That's part of the trouble, rosy-tinted spectacles.

ExConstance · 19/10/2015 07:57

I am a "natural conservative" though I voted Labour last time in the hope of restoring a brilliant constituency MP.
I do favour an economy where employers aren't propped up with tax credits and pay living wage plus. I want to be able to take on staff ( manager, not owner) who want to work when I need them, without saying they can't go over so many hours a month when we are busy.
I want tax credits, in the main to go. BUT any reductions should be phased in hand in hand with minimum wage increases over a lengthy period, not forced on people at speed. I don't think this can be done fairly in less than 5 years, possibly as much as 10 needed, so te effect on employers would be phased too. Much as I think JC is a breath of fresh air in some respects and I very much admire his honesty in failing to kow tow against his principles I couldn't face the risk of him running the country, so I will be voting Conservtive next time round.

HoneyDragon · 19/10/2015 07:58

^
It's a pity, really. Because the political threads used to be actual debate, and I found that much more interesting

I worked out its been over five years since I posted on the politics boards. The last two elections came with politicotrolls which just in turn resulted in another place for the the type of poster who likes to shout down rather than engage. It's a shame, I am open to other opinions and information and I miss the boards as they used to be.

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ginorwine · 19/10/2015 08:00

No I'm not a researcher !
It's what auntie said - there did used to be debate and it was intresting .i was wondering why it has changed , and why .

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Shinyhappypeople9 · 19/10/2015 08:04

I think a lot of people just bought into the "look how we have saved the economy" story without thinking about how voting might affect them personally. Plus a lot of people could not vote for Ed Milliband either.

TheWildRumpyPumpus · 19/10/2015 08:06

There are plenty of Conservative voters on here, myself included. You just can't openly post so without a Labour voter coming along and equating you to Satan/Myra Hindley/Hitler within a few seconds and any attempt at reasonable debate is lost.

Apparently it's not possible to be a 'decent' human being and have right-leaning principles.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 19/10/2015 08:07

When I said up thread 'Don't expect many replies' I should have continued from Conservstive voters, who confirm they did, and are happy to discuss it here with you

Mn is largely left leaning, and anyone brave enough to poke their head above the parapet will be shot down. It always happens.

I agree with HoneyDragon, and it's a shame.

FondantFancy66 · 19/10/2015 08:08

I voted for them. It was a reluctant tactical vote. I live somewhere where unfortunately the UKIP support had rocketed in recent years, and I didn't want to live under a UKIP MP. I'm a floating voter, and can usually find policies I agree with in several parties, but I'm not 100% happy with the current government at all. I think some of their thinking behind things is the right idea (eg less reliance on benefits) but I don't like they way they're going about things or the speed at which they're doing it. I know the next election is a long way away, but I'm not sure how I'd vote at the moment. Depends on if UKIP are still popular round here! I didn't think Labour were a strong enough opposition last time, so I'm interested to see how they are this time.

FartemisOwl · 19/10/2015 08:08

waves I'm going to stick my head above the parapet here and say I'm a Conservative. I don't get involved in political threads (or haven't so far) as I think life is too short to spend my day in a heated argument or slanging match. I like their policies and use my vote rather than try and convince other people as that's a pointless task in itself.

MyCircusMyMonkeys · 19/10/2015 08:11

The Tory voters I know all believe that Labour can't be trusted with the economy.

(I'm the lesser lesser spotted - a Lib Dem voter)

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ginorwine · 19/10/2015 08:18

The wild - in part I posted because of the view you referee to that it seems that Tory voters are regarded by some as not decent human beings - as if the two cannot be consistant .i wanted to raise a debate were all people , including Tory voters, could be heard . Surely that's democracy ? A thing we hold dear ? Yet I see people slating others for their views .

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rolite · 19/10/2015 08:19

The key to the election was the number of Lib Dem voters who switched to the Conservatives in the West Country. Some of the Swings in that region were enormous in that direction, I think it the fear of a Government led by weak Ed Miliband being bullied by the Alex Salmond and the rest of the SNP was the main cause.

As for the future the tax credit thing is so early in the Parliament and the next election is not for 4 and a half years so its far too early to say what will happen. Labour also has an issue with the public perception of their economic competance, the likely continued presence of SNP and the equalising of Constituency size none of which will help them in 2020.

PrimalLass · 19/10/2015 08:23

They voted Tory because they wanted cuts to things like wtc, surely? So your OP answers itself.

lighteningirl · 19/10/2015 08:30

All the Tory voters I know did so because they believe it's best for the country and that Labour can't be trusted with the economy but reasoned political discussion is impossible with the virtue signalling nastiness of the Labour voters so they keep their heads down.

SquadGoals · 19/10/2015 08:40

ExConstance sums up my views entirely on WTC.

I don't feel like people should be entitled to anything. Employers instead need to have the autonomy and ability to pay employees a wage that they can live on.