To have zero sympathy for this woman

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The tearful woman on BBC Question Time claims to have been a Tory voter. She's reaping what she sows.
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hame-you-hardworking-mums-tearful-6643284

I found the day after the election extremely upsetting (despite being a family that would probably be better off under this government financially

This 100%

I am better off under this govt but I don't vote based on what will suit me.

There are sound (ish) reasons to vote Tory and political and economic arguments that make some sense. I don't agree with them but that's fine. But it seemed to me this time around that no one was talking about those, and it was all "I voted Tory because I think I'll be better off". I find that depressing. As someone said up thread, it now turns out that people who though they would benefit at the expense of the poorest people are being lumped in as scroungers. We're all poor and feckless in Dave's book.

OP YANBU. I feel sorry for her kids. But my main feeling towards her is anger. She's one of the many people who chose to look after number 1, and consequently condemned us all to 5 years of misery. Her and her Tory gang have ruined the lives of millions.
Anyway, I'm sure she can take comfort from the knowledge that we're all in it together!

i dislike the Tory's with a passion

did the revolt of the pole tax start like this,a tiny bit of me thinks that if all this public outrage at the cuts keeps going and gaining support does anybody think they may change the cuts slightly and back down,still will be enforced just not as harshly

mad thought probably but hopefully this is one policy that is not going to go away

no ive not been on the glue

JJXM The MIF goes up to 35 hours under UC - all lone parent protection built into TC's have been removed from UC.

didnt mean i want the policy to stay,meant the outrage towards it stays

I think many people don't actually think of tax credits as benefits as such, more like a tax rebate for working people. Perhaps that is why she thought she wouldn't be affected by benefit cuts.

I don't think that they'll back down. Tax credits were Labours policy. Tories are simply reversing things back to the way they were before.

Whether or. not you agree with tax credits I think that it would be fair for the government to say 'children born after x date'.

I think single mums of one will be the worst hit. Tax credits are very generous for subsequent children when actually it doesn't cost that much more, clothes and toys can be passed down, a dinner can go around.

I'm not sure how this lady can think that Babyroobs when she apparently has no taxable income!

But in general I agree with you. People thought "welfare" meant unemployed and disabled (who obviously deserve to starve) and that they wouldn't be affected because they were working.

Charity loads of hospitals were previously workhouses, perhaps we'll go full circle.

Oh sorry fast, I thought she had her own business !!

Ha! She does it just apparently doesn't make any money

harityBarnum Fri 16-Oct-15 20:10:40
I've always maintained that this bunch of sociopaths would like to turn NHS hospitals into workhouses. Win win.

and the workhouses would be owned by some Chinese or US offshore tax-dodgers no doubt.

Yy MissMarple, perhaps we will.

Who remembers the photo of Dave with the Asda employees, strivers all compared to the scrounging jobless and disabled? I bet they're happy.

katharine I know that about UC - I don't know if the person in question is in a universal credit area. I suppose I was just highlighting why someone who is self employed in a non profit making business would have her tax credits affected so much.

There is a strange contradiction going on here and I can't quite work out how it will unravel.

Having worked in the Back to work industry, many many many many people are encouraged to do exactly what she did in setting up a business and then claim tax credits. They are then taken off the unemployment statistics. I can't remember the exact calculation, but so long as you earned approx. £50 a week from your business then you were considered 'in work'. Even if you only worked 1 hour a week for that £50, people were encouraged to say the rest of the time was 'admin' or 'marketing' to get the tax credits.

So presumably, people like the QT lady will just go back to claiming unemployment benefit.

When you examine the 'drops' in unemployment you will see that these sort of 'businesses' take up a very large proportion of the reduction.

Someone like this woman won't suddenly be able to go out and work 40 hours a week when she is a single parent to 4 kids.

To add to others on here - I didn't vote Tory, despite being personally largely unaffected (up to a point - we're all paying 20% VAT imposed by the "tax cutting" Tories).

I don't want to kick people while they are down. Tax credit reform would be much more credible if it wasn't just an immediate slash and burn, accompanied by vague "jam tomorrow" mutterings.

I don't want us to be a divided nation - this stuff is not being done in my name.

JJXM sadly I doubt she has factored in this change into her finances. I think she is just talking about the cuts from April 2016. She'd lose a further £252 pw under UC.

Single parents these days are too big for their boots.. about how you pulled that one out of the hat.
How very fucking damn dare a women/man be widowed,
or How dare she/he summon up the courage and bravery to leave and abusive partner
While we're on the subject. Do you have any criticism for the absent or abusive parent.?

hows that pls ??

Actually it wouldn't be £252 lost. I'm too tired to work it out after being up at 6 and working my guts out for 7 hours with a 20 min break. So the Tories can punish me come April.

Single parents these days are too big for their boots I'm willing to put a lot of money (well it's the Internet how are you going to find me) on that having been a joke

It really is shocking how many people don't know about U.C. My sister recently had a back-payment which I advised her to put away for when she goes onto it, because of the monthly / arrears aspect which will leave many people short especially in terms of rent.

The H.A have sent letters telling people to save whatever they can but she doesn't believe me. She didn't vote at all of course because "politics doesn't affect" her.

The single parents being too big for their boots was supposed to be tongue in cheek.
Through the eyes of the Tory/Daily Mail reader.
I have been a single parent it's hard as fuck.

Btw I left an abusive relationship, the week I gave birth.

Tax credit enabled me and ds to have a normal life, I was far from rich but at least knew I could cover the bills/food.