Kate Middleton

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AIBU to find Kate Middleton really annoying ? It's probably just me but I find her so smug. Anyway feel much better for getting that off my chest !!!

I agree with what other posters said - that she has zero personality as Diana had so much personality, they don't want history repeating itself.

Regarding 'work', same 'noteworthy' thoughts apply. If you show up everywhere then you just become part of the wallpaper. If you spread yourself thinly then whatever you do garners attention.

*if you don't spread yourself thinly

that she has zero personality
Do, tell me how you know that.
Do you have dinner with her?
Meet her off the record?

Sorry but once you have seen the video where she lets the mask slip its very clear that she is a great actress playing a part

and that only those she trusts know what she really thinks

She and William are on record feeding false stories to find out who their friends are

they have a fab network which does not include ANY journalists, especially Daily Heil ones.

I think she doesn't care who likes her or who doesn't. She looks happy as she is, without winning popularity contests. I think that's why she initially caught public interest (as more than William's squeeze) around the time of the Olympics - she was happy and pretty. Women admire the way she looks. She obviously takes pride in her appearance. She probably worked perfectly hard in the family business (don't knock it, my DH does it and it's not easy) and has probably received a lot of guidance about how much work she is to do now. There were problems with Diana being so prominent. I think she's perfectly fine, unremarkable, one of those women (of whom I am one) who will always find chief pleasure in their husband and their children. But she also seems genuinely interested in the children she comes into contact with, which is a plus. It's completely an accident of birth that she is famous and she has never claimed to 'deserve' it.

'let's the mask slip

Oh come on! We all have our moments. It doesn't mean we're master manipulators if we try not to parade them in public.

Some comments are laughable, really.

No one knows her .

She has a public persona.

No one here is qualified in the least to say what her personality is like. All we see are stage managed public appearances, when she smiles a lot, dresses neatly and tries to do the right thing hilst probably wishing she was an ordinary mum who didn't have to dress up and smile at people when she's tired, got PMT or period pains or whatever.

For those who are clamouring to see more of her and for her to do more charity work, how do you know she doesn't, behind the scenes?

Are you so thick that it's never crossed your tiny minds that the RF may have learned some lessons from Diana and what 'fame' did to her and them?

We don't want Royals who are 'stars'- we want stable people who keep their heads down and just get on with 'being'.

And as for getting snipey over freebies to Wimbers etc- you've clearly never heard of corporate jollies where most of the people in Royal boxes etc get their tickets.

I think she had to be quite bland in all honesty.

If she had got pissed up at uni and been shouting and voicing her opinion at every opportunity then she would not have been suitable to marry into the rf.

God, she's dull, isn't she? I can't bear her. She's such a docile, colourless, insipid character. And she dresses twenty years older than she is. I bet she's a scream on a night out...not.

I can't believe that we are paying for these people to go on holiday and turn up at events to be fawned on and say, "have you come far?". I'm even more surprised that people profess to like the royal family. Incidentally, they cost rather more than £1 per head per year when you factor in the cost of Royal protection officers etc. for all the hangers on (Andrew and Fergie's daughters, for example). I'd sooner spend that on hospitals and roads.

Also, her job at Jigsaw was a favour from her parents' friends, who own jigsaw.

God knows what she was doing when allegedly working at her parents' business, but I suspect that actually, you know, working wasn't part of it.

I think I know why she offends me. It's because she is paraded in the media as the type of woman we should all aspire to be. Silent, obedient, dull, painfully thin, inoffensive, unthreatening.

I have a fascination with the Yorks.
I think that I should manage their PR.
Can't they keep out of showbiz pages?

K and W seem to have excellent PR

Nettle, look at the Hilary Mantel link.

I find the popular narrative people see in them intriguing. So many people are convinced, including on this thread, that the woman chased the prince. We even have this moniker, "Waity Katie".

Why? Because that's what wimmen do, but men are commitment phobic?

William has grown up knowing he's supposed to have children, and in the eye of the storm that resulted when his father put off getting married as long as possible and then married a fertile nineteen year old. He wasn't going to repeat that family mistake.

So he needed to meet someone roughly the same age as him from a family without many/any embarrassing relatives, and he needed to meet her early on, before she could acquire a romantic history of exes who would come out of the woodwork to sell nude shots to the Sun.

So, he went to university to meet someone like Catherine/Kate, who was intelligent enough to do A-levels and graduate university, but didn't have particular career ambitions. For example, a medical student would have been right out as a future queen, because she would not want to give up her plans to fit in with the royal family. Even William's own university subject seems calculated to maximise his opportunity to meet such a woman. You can bet your life that even if William had had a love of physics, he wouldn't have done it at university. Not only is it a subject with a high male to female student ratio, physics students tend to have more definite career plans.

And he met Catherine, and they spent years playing down their relationship so that she didn't have the maximum amount of tabloid attention and he waited until she was ready to get married and have the children.

And then they did that.

A friend met Kate in a private environment before she was engaged to William. She said she was a genuinely warm and friendly person, so was Carole . Pippa on the other hand - not so nice and definitely not genuine.

I do have a few routes to info about her actually. Far fewer than 6 degrees of separation between us. Through different and unrelated activities I have involvement with Marlborough, know maternity staff at St Mary's (who were on duty in the Lindo wing when the first kid was born) and a few of the royal protection officers too. I've never asked, but have been told things freely. All I will say is that sights were set on William very early and all efforts made to make sure she was presented as the perfect option for him.

Acksherly, I'm also at two degrees of separation as well. Worked it out once when I was bored. Three ways. I never thought I'd mention that on MN.

the video where she lets the mask slip?

Do you mean the eye rolling one from her visit to New York last year? I thought that actually showed a bit of personality!

A distant cousin of mine got married a few years ago and Michael Middleton gave her away and Kate, Carole and Pippa were at the wedding. I guess that gives us a couple degrees of separation even though I only met said cousin once!

Surely no one at the Lindo wing is talking about a patient there?! That is utterly shocking and unprofessional. I am no great fan but I do feel very sorry for her if that is the case

Actually, I think I would cut off at the pass any medical professional or protection officer who talked to me about a patient or charge. I'd be disgusted and really wouldn't want to hear what they had to say. How awful to think that you had trusted people whilst you were in hospital giving birth - really vulnerable - and they were blabbing to their friends about you.

What video where 'the mask slipped'? All very intriguing!

I agree with the incomparable.

I've never met anyone from a working class background who has gone onto a Russel group university and studied the history of art.

It is not a degree anyone would study with a view to become a doctor or a vet.

It screams to me : I am wealthy enough to have had all the privileges which a private education can bring, yet I am not acedemically minded enough to study say biochemistry or English literature. Neither will I study a law degree or a degree which leads specifically towards a career within that field.

I don't mean to cause offense but it could only really be suitable for someone of Catherine's background.

With regards to her working for her parents and family friends that is life.
It's not what you know but who you know.

The fact is William and Catherine are together and they do appear to be happy.

disappointedone
Still utter gossip, though. I have 'routes' to Prince Charles and have been told things that turned out to be utter codswallop but were obviously the speculation that was doing the rounds in his circle at the time. I'm disgusted that you (and staff) have been discussing any mother giving birth - rarely anyone's finest hour. You're obviously a gossip and unlikely to be a trustworthy source.

X post cerseirys. Don't know that video.

Cerseries- I read that as Michael McIntyre and thought awesome! What a laugh that must have been.

This video! It seems fairly harmless.