.. To think we should know if our Dear Leader sees fit to indulge in bestiality or necrophilia?

[EasyToEatTiger]

Or am I just old fashioned in thinking a line of one sort or another has been crossed if it is true?

If true, and it may well not be, I don't think it's has any relevance to his ability to do his public job now.

I don't know if the story is true or not.

If it is, it was a silly prank thought up by daft students to humiliate a newbie and bond him with the group.

It was not disrespectful to the dead animal, it does not mean that DC or anyone else who took part in that or similar rituals desires animals or dead things (the aim of the ritual is to humiliate, to create a secret that cannot be told and thus form a bond between those present) the initiate does something unpleasant or challenging in other ways.

Young people often do things they aren't quite sure of in order to bond with others. Its not unusual at all.

It certainly isn't shocking, horrifying or a resigning matter.

I think a line has been crossed, I really do. You choose either bestiality or necrophilia and you stick to it. You don't do both and certainly not at the same time. That's just greedy and shows a total lack of manners.

Even Jimmy Savile didn't mix his perversions in such a slovenly manner. Lacks class, like fish knives or doilies.

Students do stupid things of course. Most don't go on to lead a country.

"Student was a bit drunk and silly with a table decoration" woukd have been a more accurate headline. Wonder why the tabloids didn't use it .

No but they often go onto other positions of responsibility like teacher, lawyer, doctor etc

This is the most sensible commentary I have read so far about the incident:

This wasn’t, as some have said, young men being silly. Not if the secrets being kept are designed by powerful men to keep other powerful men under control. That kind of arrangement is the antithesis of democracy.

And it is also the antithesis to the meritocracy they proclaim. Not just because it’s rich boys getting an easy ride to the top – we already knew that – but because David Cameron’s nasty little scandal speaks to a suspicion many people already have: that in British society, you don’t get to become Prime Minister because you’re talented or because you work hard. You don’t even get there just because you’re rich. You get there by traumatizing the homeless and skull-fucking a dead pig, and that ritual gives you power because you have demonstrated utter, pathetic submission to your fellow oligarchs.

That is why we’re laughing.

That's the funniest one I've read.

Last I checked he was voted in

While I am enjoying the situation as much as the next women, it is ridiculous to suggest that he did this for sexual pleasure as implied in your title / op

Also, FYI, necrophilia refers to sex with / attraction to a dead human corpse

Seriously? That's how Thatcher and Blair were voted in? OMG.

Churchill. What did he have to do?

I could not care less.

In that case you should look at all the Eton educated politicians as they all have these ridiculous initiation things at uni.
Anybody else would be prosecuted at the time, but future politicians are allowed, in fact their parents pay for the privilege.
I have never been more surprised that so many people are surprised by this iyswim.

Yawn. There's a really long thread about this from yesterday or the day before somewhere.

Churchill stood for election as leader of his party in 1945, 50 and 51 (twice unsuccessfully and once successfully)

I know of people who did idiotic things when at uni (drinking sick etc).

They were nob heads then and are nob heads now. I think you are either a tosser or not, and it doesn't really change much even as time goes on.

That is all I think about this.

As has been said on previous threads and phone ins about this, allegedly the army and rugby players as well as other unis have similar and worse 'ceremonies'.

Am loving that no-one from a state school could possibly have done anything equally stupid. Only toffs from Eton. Missed yesterday's thread I think.

Churchill must have skipped the pig that time. That'll have showed him.

In that case you should look at all the Eton educated politicians as they all have these ridiculous initiation things at uni.

As have others that don't/haven't attend that school

13 pages of it...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/2471762-Apparently-there-is-a-photo-of-a-David-Cameron-with-his-penis-in-a-pig?pg=1

I'm fairly sure it's neither bestiality or necrophilia

I would bet good money, knowing what drunk 19 / 20 year olds are like and having personal experience of this sort of thing when one friend of a friend decided that he could fit a fish on his penis (he now has a PhD and is a very well paid engineer), that the scenario went something like "Hey look at that pigs head, it's so weird / gross." "Yeah. I dare you to stick your dick in it." "OMG he's actually doing it, someone take a photo!"

I'm sorry but I just can't get outraged by it. It's pretty iffy but hardy the crime of the century.

Excellent post Lunchpack. I'm assuming that our future PM putting his knob in Mr Porky but not actually shagging is the equivalent of Bill Clinton not inhaling when passed a doobie ??
And I agree if everyone who did stupid drunk stuff as students were judged as 40 somethings there would be no one in public office, or heading large organisations ... Or working maybe.
However as stupid drunk stuff goes, it was a bit ... Niche

thank you sparkling, will peruse

I think this was probably more along the lines of "playing with his food."