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210 replies

southeastastra · 12/09/2015 23:49

why is it so important for them to all conform to a certain standard

the right playschool, the right school, university, job

the right clothes, politically correct opinions, cars. does it not get suffocating to conform?

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BoboChic · 14/09/2015 12:43

You can supervise rather than teach private study. Supervisors are cheaper than teachers.

monkeysox · 14/09/2015 13:09

Yes and the results would reflect that.

BeaufortBelle · 14/09/2015 13:20

Perfectly happy to pay teachers more and with a higher rate of tax. But that would have to go hand in hand with more rigorous performance management. My DD attended a small comp with a wonderful reputation. In five years she had one incompetent maths teacher, one incompetent Spanish teacher, one incompetent geography teacher, exceptionally mediocre science teaching, etc. 30 pupils suffering poor teaching year on year. The head was on 105,000k per annum and was there for eight years during which time results declined significantly.

I'm all for better pay for teachers but I don't think SLT members are underpaid and I do think if salaries increase performance needs to be dealt with swiftly so that fewer children suffer poor teaching for shorter periods of time.

Anyway sorry that was so far off topic.

Notoedike · 14/09/2015 13:35

I don't understand the obsession with class on Mumsnet - no one talks about it in real life. I find it all quite oppressive...do people really try to live a life of things they dislike to appear middle class are people really so insecure? It all seems so dull and unnecessary to feel constrained by these things - yet I feel intrigued by people who do.
People often judge me to be someone I'm not - my image and my personality have always been strangely at odds Confused - I apparently look stuck up but I am anything but - I'm a slack rebel at heart.

monkeysox · 14/09/2015 14:25

Sorry belle don't see how performance management could be stricter. very few poor teachers

BeaufortBelle · 14/09/2015 14:28

Perhaps we were just at the wrong school. It felt scandalous.

Mehitabel6 · 15/09/2015 08:23

If you want to recruit more teachers then you need a better work life balance. They are leaving in droves- I don't see how stricter performance management helps- it is already strict. It is very difficult to recruit Heads or Maths or Science teachers.

monkeysox · 15/09/2015 22:44

Agree mehita it's awful.

LittleRedRidingHoodie1 · 15/09/2015 23:01

Mehita I agree. Good job we've got people like Beaufort Belle to keep us all in line- nothing like someone who knows nothing about a topic to consider themselves an authority on it.

Blackcloudsbrightsky · 16/09/2015 06:18

I don't think more rigorous performance management is the answer but it will be interesting to see what happens with exams with a more academic slant to them.

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