Is this landlord BU banning children from his pub.

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He's being interviewed now on This Morning. No children under 10.

My local has a bar and a lounge. Children aren't allowed in the bar so it has the best of both worlds. Plus it has a massive play area outside so most kids are playing there out of the way anyway.

I like child friendly pubs and we eat at them frequently. But I only take the kids to those types of pubs, and only during the daytime. I think anyone who goes into a Wetherspoons or similar that has kids menus, activity sheets and stacks of high chairs at lunchtime should expect kids. But DD has reasonably good manners.

If I ever get a night or day out without the DCs I would love to go to this pub!

There's room in the hospitality market for many types of establishment.

mollie123
very surprised that on MUMSNET everyone mostly agrees that 'adults only' is not discriminatory and means that those without children can enjoy a pleasant environment.

Why on earth are you surprised? Not everyone is a mum. In fact, not everyone here is a parent. And even parents can want/need time away from children.

There are more than enough places to take children without taking them to pubs. Totally reasonable of him.

raspberry what is it with quoting and criticising someone who has made a light-hearted comment - it is almost always the assumption on mumsnet that it is all about the kids and how they should be treated - so I was genuinely surprised

some of you seem to have a GSOH bypass

Sounds like he is on to something great. No reason for kids to be in pubs at all. Can there be at least one place where children are banned.

Not at all unreasonable. If he judges that his target market want a child free experience he's perfectly within his rights to make this decision.
I'd like other establishments to follow suit.

He hasn't banned children altogether, just the under 10's. Perfectly reasonable to me.

Unfortunately this has come about because far too many parents allow their kids to run riot when others are trying to enjoy a nice meal or quiet drink.

Horses for courses. Child friendly pubs are great and child free pubs are great. Good luck to him, hope all this publicity pays off.
Child friendly doesn't mean turn up with your kids and then leave them totally unsupervised though...

Whilst I am in complete agreement with the Landlord in question, I would like to mention that I have never been in a pub with children running riot around the place.

Maybe we are just better at choosing pubs.

And I always check with the bar staff before bringing my kids into a pub I don't know. So a sign outside would be helpful

We live very close to another pub - well it's more of a posh waterside bar with restaurant really - who have recently banned under 5's. It's made the local news and everything .

TBH, it's not a place I would have ever considered taking my 4 year old DD anyway. There are plenty of places that are clearly set up to welcome children - children's menu, high chairs etc. etc. and there are places that don't specifically say "no children" but you get the distinct impression that that's not the market they are aiming at. The place that has recently caused uproar locally by officially banning under 5's was definitely the latter.

I have no problem at all with bars and pubs banning children from the premises. To call it discrimination is ridiculous - or are the people complaining too young to remember the days when it was completely the norm for under 18's to be barred from pubs?

Oh the excitement as a child when we occasionally found a pub on holiday with a "family room" so we could share an orange squash and get out of the rain .

Tbh it's the parents that are the problem not the children. The ones who let their kids piss about and make a huge mess. Unfortunately more in the rougher areas.

Once had some scumbag change a babies nappy on the chair, then leave the dirty nappy unbagged on their empty plate. Besides the fact they where about 10 foot away from the baby change loo, they didn't see the issue I had that they expected me take the plates with dirty nappy on back into the food prep area.

Adult only pubs are fab

It's fine if they behave but this landlord was blaming parents for not controlling the kids
So who is at fault of the children are running riot then?

Like a pp I remember sitting in the car with a bottle of coke and a packet of crisps.

I have no issue with this. If I want a night out without children, then I would go there. If I want to go out with DS then I would choose one of the thousands of other pubs that do allow children.

DH and I treated ourselves to a roast this Sunday in a local pub. There were TWO children's parties happening at the same time. I was actually a bit shocked - it's a family friendly gastropub and there are always lots of babies and children but I've never before seen a children's party being held in a pub!!

I don't think the landlord in question is being unreasonable at all. It's his business. When I was a child there were many pubs that didn't allow kids (and believe me I spent a lot of time in the ones that did but excellent behaviour was expected at all times as it was an adult environment), and there are plenty that I know of now (I live in London) with restrictions on certain ages etc. One of our friends is a landlord and he'll allow very small babies but only up to a certain time and once they're old enough to be running around it's a no-go - which is absolutely fair enough imo.

I would choose a kid free pub over a kid friendly pub and I'm a Mum.

I'd like more kid free cafes too.

Sounds bloody great to me, although I personally would like the age limit raised to under 18...

Not sure about 18. All long legs and healthy complexions. Maybe 25 is a good age to
Let them in.

It's fine if they behave but this landlord was blaming parents for not controlling the kids
So who is at fault of the children are running riot then?
Well it's obvious it's the parents, that isn't in doubt. I was explaining the landlords reasons for banning the children.

Sod it. No under 30s...

I'm with the queue of people wanting to know where the pub is.
pubs were MUCH better before they all started letting dc in. (Yes, I am a parent).
It's nice that there are some family orientated pubs that you can take children to if you choose, but it would be nice if there were loads more pubs where you can go undisturbed by children when you choose to do that, too.

I wish they were banned in my pub. I swear some punters think bar staff are free childcare.

I remember back in the 70s when I was a little that no children ever went into pubs. (Mind you women wouldn't go in on their own either). However, back then pubs were different places, men went there to escape their home and have a drink. The only food you could get was chicken in a basket.
Since then pubs have had to adapt to survive and and are now more restaurants that serve food than pubs.

All that said I fully support this landlord, my local, which we go to to eat a lot, is also the student union. We went there mid day mid week a while ago and every single group had children or babies with them.
I guess it was mid day but I would like some adult only spaces.

NBU at all. I'll add to the bandwagon against children running riot in restaurants.

Also v annoying recently was family in smart restaurant for lunch playing Thomas the Tank at top volume on an iPad - yes it kept their child quiet but disruptive for everyone else and I always thought Thomas was shite at the best of times

Sounds like a lovely pub atmosphere to me :).
Not that I could go now, but I can dream about the future.