Is this landlord BU banning children from his pub.

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He's being interviewed now on This Morning. No children under 10.

I've no problem with this at all. Choice is a good thing. I personally am not bothered by other people's children but it sounds like enough of his customers are that it's worthwhile. I do expect that the rise in profits is because he's differentiated himself from the competition and if all local pubs were child free it probably wouldn't make much difference.

'We often contemplated taking a bottle of gin down to the soft play place in town as clearly all of the children were in the pub so we could have had some peace.' Excellent!

Brilliant idea. Why shouldn't there be adult-only places? When I was small, my parents never took me to pubs or posh restaurants because they were "for adults, you can go when you're older" and tbh I wish more parents thought that way. Not everywhere should have to cater for children.

I wish that more places were adult only. It would be nice to be able to have a meal or a coffee, not just in peace, but also without seeing food being flung around and trampled into the floor. It puts me off my food.

10 is still too young, I'd make it 16 minimum! I'm also fed up with parents eavesdropping on a private conversation and then telling me to either change the subject or mind my language, it's a bloody pub not Sunday school, go and find a frankie and Benny's . There's a time and place for children, my own included, and it's not the pub!

He is NBU at all, there are plenty of places that cater for children, nice to know there are adult only places.

My DCs are good, but this weekend we went into one place and there was a hell of a mess at the next table, couple with 3 children who were allowed to run riot, caused a waitress to drop part of DP's meal that was coming out, and the parents completely ignored their DCs.

There are definitely times I want an adult environment with DP.

Our local has a no under 16 rule as it's quite small with a smallish restaurant. We don't go there now but I totally agree with rule as there isn't the space to accommodate children and it would spoil the very adult environment

I remember our local that we used to go in allowed kids in till 9pm. It was chaotic because a lot of mums would come in straight from school with their kids. Come 9 o'clock the mums were pissed had the taste of the drink and didn't want to leave, so sometimes it'd drag on till well after nine.

A pub/restaurant near us has a ban on children from babies in arms to 17 year olds, it's great. They're busy most nights and you need to book a fair bit ahead to get a table at weekends. Most people I know that go are couples or groups of friends who have kids.

Perfectly fine, it's his business.

What I object to is landlords or pub managers saying they aren't allowed kids because of the licensing laws (something we've come up against several times) when in fact there is nothing in the law which dictates the age kids can go into pubs. If they don't want kids, fair enough but have the balls to say it is their own decision.

We've been kicked out of pubs a few times because we had a child with us and everytime the pub has blamed the licensing laws, so yes this does annoy me the first time we were kicked out was when ds1 was 3w old and we had travelled up to London to go to a private function and show him off to our friends; the pub suggested we leave him outside on High Holborn on a December night We've also had ds1 in our arms, ordering drinks on a weekday autumn afternoon in a country pub in the middle of nowhere and they have taken our order and waited until we've paid before telling us we had to sit outside instead of next to the roaring fire. They could have told us first but that way they wouldn't have made a sale...

He's definitely not BU.

he is not being Unreasonable, but it'll depend on the sort of trade he's after if it'll be a good decision or not, there's a clear difference these days between "drinking pubs" and "eating pubs" - eating pubs not allowing DCs will really limit their market in many areas, drinking pubs aren't usually popular with families anyway, particularly if they are the "not enough tables, expecting people to stand to drink" types.

I do think that not all places are family friendly and shouldn't have to be, the rise of pubs becoming family friendly though seems to be because many pub landlords have realised if they do'nt want to join in with the vast number of pubs closing, they will have to become effectively coffee shops/cafes in the daytime, and so family friendly. There's been a lot of pubs close in our town over the last 10 years, there ones left have all but one turned into "coffee and food" places in the daytime, with the one exception staying shut for most of the day, but being a live bands venue in the evenings to make up the difference. A "evening drinking only" pub model isn't viable in our town. But other towns are different.

Our local, multi award winning, pub is child free and states this on a blackboard at the door. They are dog friendly though, have free dog biscuits!

It's a fab pub, and frequently packed. Their sister pub which is much bigger, with a huge garden, welcomes kids. Makes sense to me.

We have another local which is child free, stag/hen free, music free and sports strips free. Brilliant.

There is one by ours that is over 16's only. It's lovely. And busy all day and night.

Well before I had children I would have welcomed it. Theres one near me. I can't go there but theres other places so it doesn't matter. Think yabu.

I remember going to the pub with my M&D back in the sixties.

Only I didn't actually go in the pub. Me and DSis would wait in the car while my parents would go in. Every now and then we would be brought out a bag of Cheese and Onion and a bottle of Coke.

I suppose someone would ring SS these days.

There was one pub that had swings in the garden, naturally I prefered it when we went there.

I would never actually go into the premises

I have no problem at all with it in principle. I would hope, though, that it isn't going to be so tightly policed that, say, a group with one child who is 9 not 10 isn't allowed in (though I know if you allow that, where do you draw the line etc etc).

I have also been asked to leave a pub with a 3mo baby "because of licensing laws", which is rubbish

Why is this in the news? Scotland has loads of adults only pubs, our favourite pub is over 21 only. Is this the only adults only pub in England or something? In Scotland there are family friendly pubs and adults only pubs, I thought this was normal throughout the UK.

very surprised that on MUMSNET everyone mostly agrees that 'adults only' is not discriminatory and means that those without children can enjoy a pleasant environment. Not that children are unpleasant but the behaviour of some can be.
When I lived in Canada some blocks of apartments were often designated adult only (or sometimes just a floor) which was a good thing as both those with and without children were happy.

Three pages in on a 'kids in pub' thread and no-one's made any spurious comparisons to Italy/France/somewhere they don't serve pints.

Up to him. Why not make it under 18s and be done with it, though? His choice i guess.

I've no problem with this, not every place has to be family friendly. There are plenty of family friendly places out there so nothing wrong with places that aren't.

My favourite pub never has any children in it. I don't think there's an official ban as such, just an unspoken rule that it's an adult only place (it's city centre, in a uni town). I'm going to miss going there when baby arrives, but it doesn't bother me. I'll be looking forward to a child free night out when I can! Pubs aren't for kids anyway, unless a firmly established family pub/eatery (usually with a playground to burn off energy outside).

I don't mind this and I'd much rather know in advance rather than get asked to leave. We don't take the DCs to pubs really but I see no harm at all in a child free one.

There's a pub near us that features a slightly aggressive poem about not wanting kids outside. No problem; we don't take the DCs. Although the unpleasant tone has put us off going ourselves too!