To be edging towards an anti-Monarchy position purely because of the Cambridges?

[Buxhoeveden]

As a couple they are starting to grate.

Is it too early to focus on them?

I agree, it would would be good if Kate did that, if that's what she felt.

But she would get a whole world of shit. Maybe she doesn't want to do that. We're not all crusaders or interested in constructing a martyr cult.

I wish she would be more outspoken, limited. She's in the perfect position to meet with dignitaries and really get a grip on world politics from a 'neutral' standpoint, unfettered by political allegiances.

Unfortunately the RF seem more concerned about making sure she is wearing the correct length skirt for her ribbon-cutting exercises.

"But she would get a whole world of shit. Maybe she doesn't want to do that. We're not all crusaders or interested in constructing a martyr cult"

Well, no. But most of us would think we should do something in return for mega bucks and an extraordinarily privileged lifestyle.

She won't step out of line. Diana did and it did not end well even before that tragic accident and before she separated officially from Charles. Kate will be the Stepford Princess. IMHO.

She's in the perfect position to meet with dignitaries and really get a grip on world politics from a 'neutral' standpoint, unfettered by political allegiances.

No she's not.

As soon as she expressed my hypothetical support for asylum seekers she would be putting herself in direct opposition to the government and Prime Minister who has described them as a 'swarm'.

Why she wouldn't want to make the world a better place in some permanent measure is beyond me. Her and everyone else who have the advantages that money, influence and connections can bring them are duty-bound to do so in my book; it's the only fair tax. Otherwise her contribution to the world is superficial and rather pathetic. I'd go as far to say inconsiderate and selfish, even if only passively so.

I'm doing what bit I can, why can't she?

I'm aware my viewpoint isn't popular. She didn't ask to be part of the media circus, Wills didn't ask to be born into a privileged family etc. but they have a hell of a lot of advantages that most of us have to do without. It's time they were more outspoken or all their lack of privacy would have been for NOTHING at the end of the day. Just so they could keep their multimillion pound lifestyle a little more guarded. Woopdedoo.

Why the hell do people think they can tell she's not breastfeeding from a few pictures? That just sounds like vindictiveness to me.

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As soon as she expressed my hypothetical support for asylum seekers she would be putting herself in direct opposition to the government and Prime Minister who has described them as a 'swarm'."

There are plenty of other less controversial causes she could champion.

I quite like the monarchy and bucked the trend in that I wad really pro monarchist when younger but agree about William, Kate and the rest of the younger lot. They seem to want to live a life of entitlement workout responsibility. Part of the reason I have issues is because I am generally pro monarchy but can see the whole thing falling apart before George has a chance of being King. The whole SAHM/maternity leave thing is irritating. She hardly did anything before her marriage or before the children were born, Preferring to leave the work to her grandparents in law who were in their 80s and did 100 x what she did. She wasn't worried about the kids when she was learning how to dive on holiday but can't leave them for an afternoon to attend a VE day memorial? They will be the end of the monarchy.

Why she wouldn't want to make the world a better place in some permanent measure is beyond me.

Really Snoozebox?

It's beyond you that if you were married into the Royal Family that expressing an unpopular opinion, such as immigrants trying to enter Europe from Syria, Libya, Eritrea, Sudan - oh I give up counting - would be make you and therefore them a bit unpopular with the Government, and more importantly, most people?

KC has to remain politically neutral. She hasn't been given a soapbox and she isn't going to try to make one for herself. Her job is to rear a future King and his siblings and to support William and his family.

It would also be unconstitutional. The RF aren't allowed to take political positions.

Diana's work with HIV patients and land mines were considerably further into her marriage. Indeed the land mines work was largely done post-separation. Was she so radically different in1984/5/6 when the boys were young?

Bobo yeah Kate's a breeding/brooding mare just like Di was. Bet she was given fertility tests beforehand. God help her if she couldn't have children or girls at that!

Kate has probably been told or knows not to do what Di did or she'll meet a nasty end like Di did.

YeOlde c'mon when do you ever see Wills smile? rarely…

at least Harry has some character in him.

Do you think they would do a fertility test ?

There were rumours Dianna had pre Wedding fertility tests.

Can't remember last time I saw Wills at all.

I wonder what William's peers in rescue helicopter piloting got for their A levels/degree?
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2533165/Williams-mediocre-A-Levels-insult-Cambridge-students-turn-Prince-announces-studying-them.html

Beware:Daily Mail alert!

Harry has a better PR team, clearly. I know he helps save the rhino but I don't know what KM and Wills do.

The Mail thing is a joke as: a) he's doing it as a postgrad - A'levels are irrelevant.
b) its a special 10 week course, not even a post grad degree.

Ubik1 - I wouldn't put it past them with Kate as well if Wills couldn't have kids with her then seriously what's the point??!!

Snoozebox yes Harry really does have a better PR team - ok so he does some silly stuff sometimes (in past) but he seems to have much more integrity and just seems nicer and not as smug as Wills. Wills has a touch of the smuggins about him, so does James Middleton.

I don't often see pics of the Royals but at the hairdresser browsing OK or Hello the Middletons just looked awfully smug - very much 'we've got lucky'. Still I suppose you either love them or hate them and I don't hate them but I certainly don't feel an affection for them.

Well, stick the knife in however you want. But the case for republicanism speaks for itself. It's not boosted by bitching about Kate's activities or how her family make a living.

Why aren't we supposed to criticise the Royal Family?

You can if you like - I did say you could stick the knife in however you want .

I'm a republican but I just don't understand the nastiness directed at the RF, the Cambridges, the Middletons. I don't think they merit such hostility.

I want to get rid of the monarchy because I think the institution is harmful to our society. Whether or not the mother of a three month old baby should be carrying out 100 yearly engagements of inconsequential chatter and bouquet holding has absolutely nothing to do with that debate.