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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To just not bother telling DH?

101 replies

talentedmrsripley · 11/08/2015 11:13

I'm going to meet up with a friend tomorrow but DH doesn't like her. WIBU to lie if he asks me what I'm getting up to (I am on holiday at the moment and hes at work.)

He'll probably not know but then if the trains late he might ask where have I been and I don't want to get caught in a lie.

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Theycallmemellowjello · 11/08/2015 12:58

Agree withurethra, he is certainly abusive I'm afraid.

Gottagetmoving · 11/08/2015 13:05

You are a grown woman and it is not your friend's fault if YOU get into trouble. You have a choice what to drink, how much and how late you stay out.
Stop worrying about what your DH does or does not like and do what you want to do - Just don't expect him to be picking you up or relying on him to bale you out of any trouble.
Him not liking someone or where you are going or what time of night you get back is HIS problem. He doesn't have to like it.

He is in the wrong but if you lie, then you are wrong. There is no need to lie unless you are scared of him and if you are, then you should be thinking about not being with him at all.

talentedmrsripley · 11/08/2015 13:05

He's nearly 30 so is more into chilling at home.

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Alibabsandthe40Musketeers · 11/08/2015 13:40

29 is not old. This is not to do with age, it is to do with the fact that he's a controlling man.

If you work and have your own money, spend it as you wish. He is your partner, not your boss. Don't waste your youth toeing this idiot's line, live your life in the way you want to.

When I was your age I was out with friends after work 2-3 nights a week - drinking, dancing, meeting different people and finding out what I thought about the world.

If you want to do similar, then do it. A man who really loves you won't try and stifle you like this. I'm now 38 - if I went out and told DH I would be back at midnight, he would say 'isn't that a bit early? Grin' - because he is normal and not seeking to control my life for me.

PiratesLifeForMe · 11/08/2015 13:48

Feel a bit sorry for your friend getting the blame for you choosing to get drunk! How is it her fault?

Anyway, agree with the others, he's not your mum, at 24 you are an adult. Think you need to tell him that.

daisydukes229 · 11/08/2015 13:52

Controlling and abusive get thrown around far too much here.

Unless he tells the OP she isn't allowed out (which at no point she has said) or makes threats or emotional blackmail, he is hardly controlling and abusive.

He is allowed to dislike one of her friends - at no point does it state that she isn't allowed to see said friend, just that it may be easier to lie. Which is the same when anyone does something their OH won't particularly like.

Not staying out late is a tad daft but he could be worried about safety because it isn't as safe out at night as it is in the day (and equally if he doesn't like the friend he could be worried that she can't be trusted not to go off and leave OP on her own)

Finally money. Is it possible that they have a mortgage/paying off a loan or something and every penny is already accounted for?

Without knowing more it isn't possible to know if he is abusive or not. So many people jumping to conclusions and throwing words like that around isn't helpful

chrome100 · 11/08/2015 13:56

I'd hit the roof if my DP had issues with me seeing certain people and "staying out late" (which 11pm certainly isn't!). He sounds very controlling.

UrethraFranklin1 · 11/08/2015 13:56

Which is the same when anyone does something their OH won't particularly like

Bollocks it is. You might lie to your partner in that manner, those of us with decent adult relationships do not do that.
If you think thats normal you're in no position to be advising OP.

TooOldForGlitter · 11/08/2015 13:57

Of course it's controlling. It's the very definition of controlling.

confusedandemployed · 11/08/2015 13:59

"He's nearly 30 so is more into chilling at home."

I'm 42. I like going out for a drink as much as the next person. And I'm usually out way, way later than 11pm, with or without DH.

30 is a mere spring chicken, and certainly doesn't 'explain' his wanting to chill at home. If that's what he likes then fine. But just because he likes it doesn't mean you have to conform.

ImperialBlether · 11/08/2015 14:00

What's all this business about money? Does he have control of what you spend your money on as well as who your friends are?

You really shouldn't be involved with him - you are so young and you have so many options. Why not go out with your friend tonight, stay over with her and plan your escape?

maras2 · 11/08/2015 14:02

Over the years DH has had friends who have been total twats and I've had my fair share of idiots too.The reason why we're still together after 47 years is because we respected each others rights to make the 'twat friends' mistakes.No lies,no game playing,just some eye rolling on occasion.< only last week >Can't stand that bloody Grin

MadgeMak · 11/08/2015 14:04

If he doesn't like her staying out late due to safety concerns then he should pick her up without complaining or let her get a licensed cab, again without complaining. But I suspect it isn't actually safety he's really concerned about, he just doesn't like her being out away from him

NerrSnerr · 11/08/2015 14:06

He doesn't like you staying out until 11? Christ. You should be able to come home whenever you like, 11 is really early for a night out.

It isn't normal for him to be policing your friends, whether you get taxis or when you get home.

daisydukes229 · 11/08/2015 14:09

Um no, I didn't say I lie, I said at times it feels like it might be easier to lie. Plus I am single (by choice)

The double standards here are quite impressive. Ops partner is controlling but all the women on threads "I don't allow my OH to do this or that" are just fine and dandy. It is laughable

NameChange30 · 11/08/2015 14:16

He is controlling and abusive.

Daisy, RTFT. There are plenty of examples and red flags.

ImperialBlether · 11/08/2015 14:17

I haven't noticed anyone saying, "I don't allow my OH to do that" - or not without being challenged.

UrethraFranklin1 · 11/08/2015 14:18

Not double standards, different people with opposite opinions. You do realise its hundreds of thousands of members on MN, not one person answering eveything? Hmm
Most of us have the same response to controlling behavior regardless of genital shape.

BertieBotts · 11/08/2015 14:22

"Unless he tells the OP she isn't allowed out (which at no point she has said) or makes threats or emotional blackmail, he is hardly controlling and abusive."

If you think this then you have absolutely no idea how controlling men work. They don't outright forbid you - everyone can see that's wrong! They are far more subtle than that. They manage to make it such a big deal to go out that you never bother. For example:

They will pretend to be all okay with you going out, but object to certain friends, going on about how they are a "bad influence", or that they don't like him, or that they are embarrassing, or annoying. He will refuse to come along to things that you are jointly invited to leaving you feeling awkward. Or he will come, but act aloof and rude so that you feel embarrassed. He'll insist you are home by a certain time because of "costs" or worries about your personal safety or the fact that he will "wait up worrying" about you.

He will let you go, but be ready to play 20 questions on your return. Where did you go? Who did you see? Was X there? Did you talk about me? Did you talk about X? How much did you drink? Did Y get drunk? How much did you spend? What time were you in X bar? And not in an interested way, but in an accusatory way. And as soon as you say a "wrong" answer it's grounds for a whole argument in which you end up defending yourself/feeling like you've done something wrong even when you haven't.

He may agree to look after the baby, but then have some kind of crisis at the last minute. I can't give him a bottle. He won't take it from me, you'll have to feed him. He'll have to work late so he can't be home on time. He'll be "too tired" or ill. Without children, he'll do similar in pretending to be all supportive until the actual evening where he will stall you making you late or suddenly not be able to give you a lift or develop some ailment which makes you feel bad about leaving him. He might make disparaging comments on your outfit or hair just before you leave to put you on the wrong foot and make you feel self conscious. Or he'll make some kind of comment about how he's so lonely at home on his own and he never gets to go out, so you feel bad.

He will go on and on about "not trusting other men" as though rapists lurk in the corners of every pub just waiting to pounce on unsuspecting women, although what he really means is he doesn't trust you.

Or perhaps while you are out he will bombard you with text messages and calls, insisting you "check in" constantly so that you can't actually relax and enjoy the evening. If you ignore the phone he will get angry, claiming that he was "worried" or that you are ignoring him because you find somebody else more important. He will start to claim that you must have been with another man, and the more you protest this the more self conscious you feel which makes you feel guilty which he then uses as fuel.

He will let you go but sulk and moan and whine so much about it and make so many little digs and jabs that it just doesn't seem worth it very often.

Controlling men don't forbid their victims from doing anything, they don't have to. All of the above is controlling.

MadgeMak · 11/08/2015 14:29

Hit the nail on the head, BertieBotts.

SpringBreaker · 11/08/2015 14:38

So spot on Bertie.

My ex husband was like this. To everyone who knew him socially he was such a kind loving husband... So caring...

Behind closed doors he was an absolute arsehole, an abusive alcoholic who made my life miserable.

I was never stopped from going out, but the amount of grief I got afterwards made it pointless. If he came out with me, away from our usual circle of friends, he would always make some reason to leave early, or would get so drunk it was embarrassing.

hellsbellsmelons · 11/08/2015 15:45

You're 24 and you get collected by your BF at 11pm?
Because you don't meet his behavioural standards. You get drunk once in a while. He doesn't like your friend. He doesn't like you getting a cab because of the money. But he doesn't like having to collect you.
None of this is OK!
You should be out partying and enjoying yourself if that is what you want to do.
Don't tie yourself to this controlling arsewipe for the next 20-50 years!
Do you want to live like this for ever more?
Be yourself and live YOUR life.
Not the life some knobhead wants you to lead.

Please also sign up to doing the Freedom Programme. It's better to attend in person so you can contact Womens Aid to do this or you can do it on line.
Anything would help you right now.
Don't get involved with abusive men forever more.
Learn how to spot them and get rid as soon as you can.

CassieBearRawr · 11/08/2015 16:48

Bertie is like the wise muse of mn. listen to her.

talentedmrsripley · 11/08/2015 16:57

I don't think he's that bad to be honest he's just a bit pedantic.

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Anniegetyourgun · 11/08/2015 17:02

I've got a better idea. Ditch the husband and you can go out with any friends you want as often as you like.

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