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AIBU to not put my trolley away?

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CheeseandPickledOnion · 10/08/2015 19:01

AIBU to not put my trolley away?

In my local, large, Tesco they employee people to do this. They generally have at least one person a day on this in the busy hours. I know this, I visit daily, have knowledge etc. This is fact.

It is a low wage job I expect, but it keeps those who will or can do it for what ever reasons in a job with a wage.

So AIBU to never put my trolley back thinking I'm helping keep them in work.

NB. I never leave it a car park space, just on the path.

OP posts:
sleeponeday · 10/08/2015 23:04

I'd rather one of someone who thinks as you do, OP, even if you don't always get the language and words right, than ten of the sort who earnestly say my son has autism, and then never ask us around to playdates again when we were regulars at theirs and my DS flavour of the (kind, clever, fun) week before I mentioned it. You can teach someone who is willing to learn. You can't open a closed mind.

Funnily enough, I say he is autistic. Because an autistic bloke I know, when I said my son "had" autism, asked me if I would say he "had homosexuality" if he turns out to be gay. And when I said no, asked me to think about why that is, and the message it sends if a disability/difference is seen as so shameful we must never say it is that person, but just that they have it. Autism is a pervasive developmental disorder. It is who the person is; it permeates all aspects of their character, and in many ways, there are solid positives to it as well as the horrendous.

This stuff is complicated, because the issues around it are so knotty and difficult, and I wish people could stop using language as some sort of litmust test to prove membership of the PC club and just start with a bit of kindness, and humility, and... this is why I didn't want to get into it all tonight. Sorry.

CheeseandPickledOnion · 10/08/2015 23:05

Hmm, not that he has ever mentioned. I wouldn't want to intrude too much there since he hasn't offered that up. It was mentioned in passing but not enough for me to be comfortable.

I don't want to be shit, patronising person either.

I just want to let him know how cool I think he his.

OP posts:
Sparklingbrook · 10/08/2015 23:11

How about email the supermarket and tell them? They must get enough moaners about stuff it would be nice.

MissDuke · 10/08/2015 23:29

Who goes to a supermarket everyday, sometimes more!?

Someone concerned with keeping others in employment of course Grin

McColonel · 10/08/2015 23:37

YANBU. The cunts can't even be arsed to provide humans to serve us. I'm fucked if I'm going to carry out manual labour for them for free.

CheeseandPickledOnion · 11/08/2015 00:06

Thank you Sleepy.

Humbled.

OP posts:
redfairy · 11/08/2015 08:04

YANBU to be charmed by your friendly trolleyman. We all like to see someone happy in their work. However...imagine the chaos if everybody didn't return their trolleys. Would he be such a happy chappy then?
So...YABU to not return your trolley to the trolley park and you might well be aggravating the old fella's health problems. Surely if you like him that much you would want to help him?

TheOnlyOliviaMumsnet · 11/08/2015 08:41

Bit of peace and love all, eh?

EmeraldKitten · 11/08/2015 08:46

Yabu.

It's up there with the lazy fuckers who don't clear a table at McDonalds 'to give the staff something to do'.

You're not keeping them in work. Tesco will employ X number of staff based on more than how many trollies get abandoned. You're just making one individuals job a bit harder.

Pinkball75 · 11/08/2015 08:56

I really don't understand why parents leave their trolleys all over the walkway, making it more difficult for other parents to get their trolleys past. Honestly, some days the walkway of my local Sainsburys looks like a dumping ground for the bloody things. It just makes life awkward for other people when you could just walk 5 yards and take it back to a shelter. Put it back and stop being selfish and lazy.

partialderivative · 11/08/2015 08:58

I used to work in a supermarkt (many, many years ago) I used to love it when the manager asked me to scout about looking for abandoned trolleys.

It meant I had an hour or so to myself, wandering up and down a multi storey car park gathering them all. Daylight, fresh air, solitude. It was the best bit of the day.

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 11/08/2015 08:58

I admit there have been occasions when I didn't (still left it in a reasonable place) but as a default system once stuff and kids are in the car I take it back to it's designated space.

OP
it is supposed to be a self operating system, the people you see sorting the trollies are taken away from stacking shelves or whatever in those busy hours, so by being lazy you are not helping but creating a problem.

YABU.
put them back

LeafyLafae · 11/08/2015 09:06

YANBU.

Only kidding, of course you are.
Maybe park next to the trolley bays so you don't have to take it so far?
Plus, I'm intrigued as to why one person would go to a shop so often if they didn't work there..?

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 11/08/2015 09:11

OliviaMumsnet

Any chance to start a topic titled "IABU but bollocks to you" ?
Grin

Oliversmumsarmy · 11/08/2015 09:15

I must live in the only part of the country where every supermarket, including Boots, have trollies that can only be accessed by putting in a £1 coin.

By all means everyone please leave your trollies in the car park. My kids run around the carpark bolstering up their pocket money when we go to our local trading estate. During one particular down pour they managed to get £7 from trollies that people abandoned.

Eliza22 · 11/08/2015 09:24

I don't like your attitude.

I never abandon a trolley and have been known to gather stray ones along the way (DH finds this very amusing). The reason? At our local supermarket, there are two young men who collect the trolleys and both have a disability. It is low paid work and they are out in all weathers. I'm sure it wasn't their life's ambition to do this work.

I have a disabled son. I'd hate to think his future career is running around after entitled lazy people.

SylvanianCaracal · 11/08/2015 09:26

I still don't see why it has to be so black and white.

Why either "put your trolley away EVERY TIME or else you're a lazy feckless patronising twat who thinks people LIKE collecting trolleys!"

Or "NEVER put it away because the trolley man loves collecting trolleys and it's keeping him in work."

It's almost certainly somewhere in between and it is fair enough to put it away or not depending on your circumstances. If I've been shopping with a 6mo who's screaming for a feed and I have to rush back for the HV coming round, I've left the trolley (somewhere safe).

If I'm on my own, or with a sensible older child who can be left in the car for a minute, I'll return it.

If you've twisted your ankle or have angina and walking is difficult, leave the trolley. If you're haring around like a headless chicken trying to fit in shopping, work, caring for elderly parents, nursery-pick-up and cooking the tea, leave the trolley. It's fair enough for the supermarket to help you out.

If you're fit and well and have plenty of time, it's the responsible and helpful thing to do to return it.

I've sometimes left a pound-locking trolley with the pound in because I was short of time and couldn't leave small fighting DC in the car etc etc. I saw that as paying the supermarket a pound for the service.

And what's wrong with leaving it on the walkway? It's away from the cars and shoppers coming in can pick it up as they go by, that's what I always do.

And yes it does create work, of course it does. Tesco etc. take into account and budget for the fact that trolleys will need collecting. They need collecting from the trolley park anyway, which is there so you don't have to schlep right back to the shop isn't it? So Tesco do collect trolleys as part of the service.

And I know supermarkets where there is a dedicated trolley person, sometimes someone with learning difficulties who does not also have a job on the tills. I don't think that's patronising, it's giving that person a paid job, allowing them to be involved in society and do what they are able to do in exchange for a wage (like any of us, in fact). It's not patronising that I can have a job doing what I'm capable of, but wouldn't be allowed to be a police dog handler or helicopter pilot because I wouldn't be good at it. It's OK to give someone a job that reflects their skills and abilities. And PPs on this thread have said, some people do enjoy that job.

MintJulip · 11/08/2015 09:29

I like it when I see a trolly near my car so I dont have to traipse over to trolly park to get one,

Thanks op Grin

SylvanianCaracal · 11/08/2015 09:35

I have a disabled son. I'd hate to think his future career is running around after entitled lazy people.

That describes lots of people's jobs, whether they are disabled or not. It might not be what you'd wish for but not everyone does a job simply because it's the job of their dreams. People work to get money and do need jobs. Should there be no cleaners, chambermaids, cooks, washer-uppers because if everyone wasn't so lazy, they could do everything themselves?

PastaLaFeasta · 11/08/2015 09:47

You are not creating employment for this man you are just creating more work on his shift. The job only includes rounding up abandoned trolleys because of lazy arses, the main job is moving the trolleys from the bays to the front of the store. If you love and appreciate this man so much help him out by taking your trolley back.

I tend to park near a trolley bay to make it easy to take it back with kids in the car. The only issue is parent and disabled spaces are much further away from the bays so I can understand leaving the trolleys in these cases, and I'd happily snap up a double seated trolley left on the path.

Spartans · 11/08/2015 09:48

Wow this got out of hand!

Op you are not a cunt. But you are making his job Harder. Not keeping him in one. His job is to bring the trolleys from the trolley park. Not go round collected them.

By putting your trolley in the trolley park, he still has a job and its a bit easier for him.

pretend · 11/08/2015 09:49

My local supermarket has two trolley collectors with SN. It's definitely their dedicated job, because they can't manage the tills.

They're like a comedy duo, always chatting up the old ladies and sparring with each other. Everyone loves them.

They even had a fb page dedicated to them with a couple of hundred fans but the supermarket made them take it down...

Anyway, my additional point is that YABU because being a trolley man is a hard physical job and having to collect the odd one here there and everywhere must be fucking irritating.

AnotherTimeMaybe · 11/08/2015 11:05

OP I think your comment came from a good place (although practicalities make it difficult to actually implement) hence YANBU

SylvanianCaracal · 11/08/2015 13:09

But if their job is just to collect them from the trolley parks, why does Asda trolley man come and get mine from me as I unload, all happy and cheery like? He seems to see it as his job to also help people who have their hands full, or would find it difficult to return the trolley (people who have small kids, walk with a stick or whatever).

At Asda at least, this seems to be this person's job (as well as whatever other tasks he has).

Homemadeapplepie · 11/08/2015 13:33

It's nice to see so many people are considerate enough to take the trolleys back but I'd like to know where you all shop because I'd swear I'm the only one at my local Asda who returns the trolleys to the shelter. OP would be in good company there!