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to think it tedious that vegetarians never reciprocate the favour

327 replies

Hermi0ne · 08/08/2015 12:26

Now, I´m not mightily peed off at this, and I really dont want to offend any veg´s here but I have quite a few veg friends and over the years you invite ppl over for meals and in turn get invited etc. I always cater for their vegetarian lifestyle choice (because thats what it is, its not an allergy, thats different), but they never cater for mine. This is just something I´ve been musing about for awhile now, nothing too serious. But I really like my meat and think its unfair that vegetarians expect meat eaters to pander to them but most of them never even dream of doing meat eaters the same favour!

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ThroughThickAndThin01 · 08/08/2015 16:37

Yabu. Very unreasonable.

And really bloody selfish to expect them to cook what you would like, and that they for whatever reasons have problems with eating. Don't accept their invitation to eat at their house if you don't want to eat the food they like to cook.

Hermi0ne · 08/08/2015 16:39

Jesus, WHERE do I say I expect them to cook me meat!? I just thought maybe some people were able to see the double standards here! Apparantly not.

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spangledboots · 08/08/2015 16:39

I've never really considered this an issue! I'd kind of expect vegetarian only food if I was going to a vegetarian person's home for a meal.

I suppose if I was making food for a vegetarian friend, I wouldn't be going out buying ingredients I normally wouldn't whereas if they had to buy meat/fish for me to eat at theirs, that would be an extra expense which I wouldn't expect.

BertrandRussell · 08/08/2015 16:40

OP- would you consider not serving pork to a Muslim guest "pandering"?

fascicle · 08/08/2015 16:40

I think the problem's in your head, OP. Presumably if you went to e.g. an Italian restaurant, you wouldn't feel aggrieved because there was no Chinese food on offer? If you change your expectations, you might enjoy the food.

Hermi0ne · 08/08/2015 16:42

Not as such, pork is just one ingredient after all. Meat is an entire food group.
By the way I have no problem cooking veg food for them! I just wanted to talk about it, more theoretically, to see if some people got that point. Im sorry I didnt make it clear enough.

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ThroughThickAndThin01 · 08/08/2015 16:42

What's your thread about if its not the fact you do expect them to serve you meat? Confused you described it as 'tedious' that they don't.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/08/2015 16:43

Jesus, WHERE do I say I expect them to cook me meat!?

OK, now I'm confused. I thought you OP was saying that you always cooked veggie when hosting veggie friends and you were sad this was never reciprocated. How could they reciprocate without cooking you meat?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/08/2015 16:44

Meat is an entire food group

It's not. It's part of the food group proteins (proteins/carbs/fat)

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 08/08/2015 16:45

Exactiy fascicle, good example.

exexpat · 08/08/2015 16:45

OP - when you have vegetarian guests, can you eat the food you cook for them? I presume so.

If a vegetarian invited you round, I think it would be unreasonable to expect the host to cook food that they would be unable to eat. That's why the 'favour' doesn't work in reverse.

tabulahrasa · 08/08/2015 16:45

"I just thought maybe some people were able to see the double standards here! Apparantly not."

It's not a double standard though, that's the bit you seem to be missing.

Don't cook me meat please, isn't the same as I'd like to eat meat.

I really like chocolate cake, I'd quite happily eat it with most meals...I wouldn't expect someone to make me one when I visited. That's not even taking into account any practical issues or ethical issues meat raises.

Boleh · 08/08/2015 16:45

It's interesting to hear this perspective, my DH is a vegetarian purely because he doesn't like the taste of meat whereas I eat meat but am very fussy about it, both how it was reared and how it was processed (I pretty much only eat identifiable bits of animal) so for the vast majority of the time we eat veggie and fish. My DH actually cooks mean steak and quite enjoys the challenge of cooking it just long enough to be the right colour in the middle and anyone who stays overnight always has a bacon sarnie option in the morning but we probably wouldn't do a dinner party with a main dish of meat purely because of the hassle of doing two separate things. I know it's a bit of a pain to feed us and I strongly suspect that sometimes we don't get invited to things like BBQs as its a hassle to do a veggie option at them and I don't mind that, of course if we get an invite then we bring a suitable dish. When we have people over it honestly has never occurred to me that they might feel they were being deprived by having a single meal without meat although I have had a couple of people comment that they were pleasantly surprised by the veggie meal - so I guess they weren't looking forward to it! If it really bothered someone I'd be willing to make them something different or more likely just suggest we all go out instead!

FreudiansSlipper · 08/08/2015 16:46

Yabu

I find your attitude rather petty

Hermi0ne · 08/08/2015 16:47

It was more a way of thinking, I didnt make that clear and Im sorry for that. It might be a language barrier, english isnt my first language. I wanted to know if other meat eaters ever think along those lines. They keep cooking for someones lifestyle, then they go to that persons place and ta dah! Its their lifestyle again. Its just all about them.

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Andylion · 08/08/2015 16:48

Mitchell and Webb - Dinner Party

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 08/08/2015 16:55

Well I'm a meat eater, and no, I never think along those lines OP.

I accept invitations to our vegetarian friends houses, eat the lovely food they've planned and served up to me, and had a great time.

If you are that desperate for meat, keep a chicken leg in the fridge you can have when you get home to sayisfy that need to eat meat.

StickEm · 08/08/2015 16:56

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Hermi0ne · 08/08/2015 17:03

Nope, I dont begrudge this to my friends. It was really more of a "hmm, this is kinda odd" moment Ive had for awhile. Guess most people dont see my point. If I seem like I got a bit worked up in my replies, that was more about ppl jumping fast to call me stupid (which I can assure you Im not, this isnt even my first language and I think Im quite good at it, thanks, so stupid? No, you have to come up with a better insult than that) than me having a problem with my veg friends.

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LovelyFriend · 08/08/2015 17:20

I've just reread the entire thread, and apart from the meme, I can't see anywhere where the OP has been called stupid.

Changebagsandgladrags · 08/08/2015 17:23

I cook meat for my guests and I'm vegetarian. Although I will not do lamb.

You take your chances with the meat dish though. I have no idea what it tastes like. I generally know I'm not going to poison you though as I have a thermometer.

I don't really like meat being cooked in my oven.

ABTwife · 08/08/2015 17:24

It's really not that difficult to understand yet you continue to act as if WE are the ones who don't 'get it'.

If five pages of people repeatedly explaining it to you hasn't sunk in then another five pages of the same isn't going to change your mind.

LovelyFriend · 08/08/2015 17:27

ABT I fear none of us are clever or enlightened enough to "get" the OP's point or have a proper debate on the subject - it's a non-mainstream way of thinking after all Hmm

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