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AIBU?

...to refuse to go on holiday next year if it's camping again?

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WyrdByrd · 07/08/2015 09:10

We've been camping every year for about the last 7 years gradually building up to a full week this year.

We don't have a huge holiday budget, so I try to put a cheery face on and have previously ended up enjoying most of it but this year I have just had enough.

Packing/pitching & the reverse is hard work & incredibly stressful as DH is pretty anal about how things are done. He's also over a foot taller than me so trying to erect an 8 man steel framed tent is quite a challenge & invariably causes rows.

Living in the pockets of DH & DD is something I really struggle with. I love them dearly but suffer with anxiety & need my own space to keep it under control. Without that, I get panic attacks which I try to keep under their radar which causes more stressful. I also have misophonia which is absolutely toe curling in a fecking tent!

I don't sleep well at the best of times, and an EMCS plus 3 further abdominal surgeries means I rarely get through the night without needing the loo. I can potter to the bathroom & back half asleep normally,but when a trip to the bathroom requires shoes, jacket, torch, negotiating a double zip tent flap & 200m trek each way that's not possible. At home if I suffer insomnia I'll make myself cosy on the couch & read/watch tv until I nod off - can't do that here as camping chairs aren't so cosy & light in bedroom would wake the others.

I hate only being able to have showers all week. The facilities here are great but it's just not the same...

Finally 'here' is where we've camped for the last three years. It's a great site & location has lovely beaches (which we've managed 3.5 days on out of 17 that we've spent here in total due to weather). We've exhausted the stuff to do otherwise & frankly I'm bored senseless of the place.

DH is not keen on doing anything other than camping because of cost & has already made noises about booking again for next year (he's done it before we've left the last two years, although I'm pretty sure he won't after yesterday's convo).

I get that money's tight but I would rather have a year off going away & do days out next year than 7 nights camping again. Quite happy to consider it the following year in a different location whilst praying our circs change & we don't have to, or do a shorter, more local trip alongside days out next year.

I can't help but feel I'm being UR & selfish. The only alternative that I've found for next year is a cottage which is very reasonable but all the things to do are art/literature/history based which would bore DH rigid.

I think mostly need to vent but if anyone has any solutions they'd be much appreciated.

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Egosumquisum · 07/08/2015 21:03

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MrsHathaway · 07/08/2015 21:05

I know a lovely campsite in woodland which is pretty reasonable and great for outdoorsing...

... which is coincidentally five miles from my house, and my spare bed, and a proper flushing toilet you'd have to yourself. You could have Wine and Cake with me and our mutual friend while DH and DD enjoy the fresh air.

Flowers to survive the last of it. Yanbu.

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landrover · 07/08/2015 21:16

OP does your DH love you? I would ask the question xxxx

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landrover · 07/08/2015 21:18

We are having separate holidays this year (ageing dog, so cannot leave him), but it will be lovely for our dd to spend quality time one to one with each of us. We are all looking forward to it.

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Dowser · 07/08/2015 22:37

Dog sitting. Friends of ours dog sit. You even get paid. They love it. Use of the house in return for looking after the owners dog/ s

These might be looking for new pet sitters

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MsAspreyDiamonds · 08/08/2015 01:28

We are staying at a YHA hostel this year in the Lakes. Camping won't work for us mainly for medical reasons. You have got a good enough reason not to do it anymore, 7 years is a long time to camp at the same site.

Your dh really should be more sympathetic towards your needs but unfortunately it's all about him.

What's your budget for the holiday all in? Once I calculated the cost of camping equipment etc, it wasn't that different from a cottage. Try looking at the special offers section of Haven, Centre Parcs, Europarcs etc.

Tip - Eurocamp slash their prices over Christmas period to ridiculously low prices. My friend booked a week in France in a chalet for £200 not including travel. Worked out cheaper than staying in UK even after she included travel.

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WyrdByrd · 08/08/2015 12:05

I will def bear that in mind MrsH Grin, especially if you throw in a squish with MiniH along with the wine & cake!

Halfway home now - just the trauma of unpacking, putting away & airing & packing tent Confused .

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WyrdByrd · 08/08/2015 20:07

Whew...finally in my lovely hot bath with a cold beer & clean PJs & bed awaiting Grin .

Thanks so much for all the great suggestions - I think perhaps we need to think outside the box a little more. Am planning a pyjama day on Monday so will fire up the laptop & investigate all these fab ideas. Daryl is there a link you can post to the site with bathrooms? I'd be at least 50% happier about camping if baths were available & Devon is lovely Smile .

We've been in Newquay for the last three years, great site but it's getting boring being in the same place & with the camping issues.

DH spent most of yesterday in a grump because I (& to a lesser extent DD) had been moaning all week. Couldn't talk without DD earwigging so emailed him Hmm explaining that is enjoyed lots of things we've done, but just find camping itself too hard going to do for a whole week every single year, and I want to visit other places too.

He perked up and spent a large chunk of the afternoon in & put of surf shops discussing when would be the best time to buy wetsuits for next year Angry, but we've not rebooked and he's been talking about 'if' we go camping/there again today, so seems to have got the message.

I'm going to pursue my main idea for next year which is a cottage in West Yorkshire for a week. Just need to find some additional things to do that might appeal to him too. So long as I do Haworth, a steam train & the N Yorkshire sculpture gardens I can flexible with other days out.

Another option is a few days out & a Monday-Friday camp in Broadstairs which would allow him & DD to do some body boarding, but be shorter for me and also give us the chance to meet up with several of my cousins who live in Kent.

The irony is, I wanted to go to Cornwall for years but he wasn't keen, and now I can't drag him away from the place!

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Suefla62 · 08/08/2015 20:39

We rented a cottage in Pickering for a week £260, two years ago. Smashing, walking distance to NYM railway, day trips to York, Whitby, Scarborough, Hemsley etc. Good take out food near by, big bedroom, nice bathroom, very comfortable. We're booking again for next year.

Last two years weve done the Derbyshire Dales (£200) and Dorset (£250)

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trollkonor · 08/08/2015 20:46

Good to hear you're ome and clean ? enjoy your beer and pj day.

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RubbishRobotFromTheDawnOfTime · 08/08/2015 20:55

I don't like the sound of your DH. Why don't you both have the same amount of fun money? Apart from the fact that as you're married it's all legally shared anyway, why the hell should you suffer because your earning power's affected by needing flexibility for your DC?

Angry

And he is being incredibly selfish about the camping.

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Charley50 · 08/08/2015 20:58

Glad you're home OP, and this thread has been great for holiday ideas for us all! Grin

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WyrdByrd · 08/08/2015 21:27

DH is a stubborn git and a bit stuck in his ways at times but he's not the devil incarnate.

As I've already said he does all the driving, most of the donkey work packing & pitching and mucks in with all the 'domestic stuff' both whilst camping and at home. We mostly agree on days out and he has been known to do a 2.5 hour round drive for me to check out Tate St Ives & the Barbara Hepworth Sculpture Gallery, while he & DD mooched round the town. After much moaning about the distance beforehand he loved the place & couldn't get back there fast enough.

I think he finds it a bit hard to relate to anything outside his personal experience and also feels it's better to spend minimally on accommodation so we can do more iykwim.

As for finances we keep them separate with our own agreed contributions to joint expenses. If anything it is more his wages for bills and mine for fun stuff (tbh he doesn't get a look in when in comes to planning birthdays/Christmas Blush Grin ), but my 'fun stuff' budget doesn't extend quite so far. It may not be conventional or the 'MN approved' way but on the whole it works for us.

I'm pretty confident we won't be camping next year & as for future holidays hopefully we'll win the lottery we'll see what happens, but I doubt I'll be doing 7 nights under canvas again!

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WorktoLive · 08/08/2015 21:55

Do you mean the Yorkshire Sculpture Park OP? I live in Leeds and think Leeds/Yorkshire would be a brilliant place for a holiday - you could come every year for the next decade and stay in lots of different places and never run out of new things to do. Have a look at our tourist website for ideas.

As well as the YSP, there are also the Royal Armouries, Mining Musem, Railway Museum, but really there are too many to mention - there's loads of industrial museums too. I heard something about a Sheffield steel museum with a feature on the women who kept the steel works going during the second world war that I keep meaning to check out.

There's also our lovely coastline with loads of opportunities for body boarding.

I'd offer you a house swap but our house is definitely not in house swappable condition.

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Melonfool · 08/08/2015 22:07

I don't mind it too much but enough not to want to go every year.

Euro camps doesn't cost that much more......at least you get the weather.

I don't go to the loo block in the night, I just squat behind the tent.

Def don't go next year. My dp booked a hol with his sis last year, having done the same thing two years previously and me saying I hadn't enjoyed it. So I didn't go and he paid for it himself. Doing something different this year.

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MrsHathaway · 08/08/2015 22:54

Saw this article and thought of you.

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Taytocrisps · 08/08/2015 23:27

YANBU. I would rather have a 'holiday' at home than endure that, especially given the additional problems you have with needing to use the loo at night and suffering with anxiety.

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HelenaDove · 09/08/2015 01:19

" After much moaning about the distance beforehand"





But he couldnt do it without moaning.

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Plornish · 09/08/2015 02:12

Work I had a brilliant holiday in Leeds when I was 10. We went with another family, and stayed in university's halls of residence. We could self-cater/go to cheapo takeaways. Can remember going to Kirkstall Abbey, Haworth and Ilkley Moor.

We used to house-swap with my uncle and his family as well; they were in London, we in Nottingham.

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WyrdByrd · 09/08/2015 09:09

Thanks for that link Work - I had a cursory Google last night and discovered Flamingo Land & a huge falconry centre which we'd all enjoy. There's even a place that does indoor surfing Grin . I will have a look at your link later on the laptop.

The cottage I've seen is in Mytholmroyd near Hebden Bridge, so anywhere within 90 minutes drive is an option for a day out, and I know quite a few things I've looked at are accessible by train which would give DH a break from driving if he wanted one.

MrsH that article is hilarious - can particularly relate to the pitching injuries (matching blood blisters on my hands from clipping the canvas to the poles); no ambient temperature for a week & constantly feeling clammy even when you're freezing and the smug sods in their caravan down the road with a portable aerial and telly ffs!

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WyrdByrd · 09/08/2015 09:10

PS Work my house is not and never likely to be in swappable condition either Grin !

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FryOneFatManic · 09/08/2015 09:36

I have to say that after many years camping as a child, I'm glad I no longer camp.

I do remember mum having to be taken to A&E one night, as she tripped over a rope in the dark and dislocated her thumb.

Luckily for us kids, we were camping with another family and they kept an eye on us til parents returned.

OP, it sounds like you've figured out some reasonable compromises, hope your DH is willing to try.

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fourtothedozen · 09/08/2015 09:39

I don't camp. I refuse even to do self catering.

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FryOneFatManic · 09/08/2015 09:50

Now, we do self catering, but I don't cater.

We have the freedom of getting up when we want, food available for breakfasts/snacks, but we budget for eating out.

After all, it's a holiday for me as well, and I put my foot down on the first self catering holiday we had.

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BertrandRussell · 09/08/2015 10:02

I know some lovely campsites in Kent if you're interested. No baths though.

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