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people in charge of air Malaysia search should be sacked

91 replies

carmellas3 · 06/08/2015 08:01

There were many eyewitness reports of a low flying jet from people seperated in the Maldives and they ignored them as their tech calculations said it wasn't possible. Now it looks like they were all right a d had they started searching there things might have been different.

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SoupDragon · 06/08/2015 08:52

OK I'm in the wrong place for this

No, you are just wrong.

SusanMichelson · 06/08/2015 08:54

Good starting point if anyone is seriously interested in this topic

SusanMichelson · 06/08/2015 08:56

Carmellas, you're talking bollocks.

It's hard to do otherwise from a POV of no insight/knowledge/self-education.

I've been glued to this incident since March last year and have read probably a fairly large proportion of the serious commentary regarding it.

You can't outsmart me here.

I suggest you do some reading before shoving half formed opinions under everyone's noses.

firesidechat · 06/08/2015 08:57

Please don't flounce op. Have the courage of your convictions for an hour at least. Wink

Myturnnow4 · 06/08/2015 08:58

Why would you want the searchers to be sacked?

TeaPleaseLouise · 06/08/2015 09:00

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Nonnainglese · 06/08/2015 09:01

Shame, things could have moved along a lot faster if wasn't for their egos getting in the way OMG, listen to yourself Shock !

There was a multinational search with experts from all over the world and op knows better!

Egos??? Bollocks is putting it mildly!

SusanMichelson · 06/08/2015 09:03

The OP can't link to anything she's citing

She's just ranting with the little information she has gleaned from MS media.

There may be a salient point somewhere among it but I can't be bothered to try and find it tbh.

RepeatAdNauseum · 06/08/2015 09:08

Do you have a general dislike of computers and technology? It seems like it.

Regardless, I'd trust a computer over your unsubstantiated views on this any day. Its very Daily Mail.

fourcorneredcircle · 06/08/2015 09:09

Gutted, came back to point out my rudeness was a well measured delivery of sarcasm to find the OP has already flounced off... I missed her by a handful of posts.... Such a shame because I'm sure that now she's gone she won't be still reading this thread, she's probably rubbing her hands while roasting the first unlucky bridge crosser of the day.

Hulababy · 06/08/2015 09:12

Carmellas3 : what is your expertise in this field?

MrsGentlyBenevolent · 06/08/2015 09:13

Wow, this is one of the oddest OPs I've read on here. How exactly would things have turned out 'differently', even if your theory is correct (the likelihood of that actually being close to zero). Those people would have still lost their lives, nothing would have changed that. Conspiracy theories don't take that away. So, unless you know what you are talking about, and I mean really 'know', I wouldn't start a discussion on this topic. It makes you sound quite ignorant and sensationalist. We may never know what truly happens, but also least we have the luxury of getting on with our lives regardless.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 06/08/2015 09:20

The plane seen flying over the Maldives was flown by Elvis flying to his secret island hideaway where he, Jimi Hendrix and James Dean moved to avoid the limelight.

True Fact.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 06/08/2015 09:20

The plane seen flying over the Maldives was flown by Elvis flying to his secret island hideaway where he, Jimi Hendrix and James Dean moved to avoid the limelight.

True Fact.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 06/08/2015 09:21

So good I posted twice!
Thanks MN

SusanMichelson · 06/08/2015 09:24

It's true that initial drift calculations/estimates were wrong as the ATSB has now stated...they anticipated debris would wash up around Sumatra by July last year and of course it didn't.

The best thing about the wide publicity surrounding the incident is that there are now thousands of minds working on this to try and narrow down the possibilities and probabilities and they are, at last, getting somewhere, I think.

Remember it too a couple of years to find AF447 and that was with a known last position and some immediate debris being found. I am sure there were similar conspiracy theories floating about at that time as well.

Annapurnacircuit · 06/08/2015 09:42

I presume that more wreckage will start to show up in the same area or thereabouts now? Anything buoyant at any rate.

I can't believe that it was 1.5 years ago, those poor families.

OP don't flounce, without meaning to sound disrespectful to the victims and families, it is a fascinating topic.

CopaBanana · 06/08/2015 10:25

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ElementaryMyDearWatson · 06/08/2015 10:38

A lot of saving face going on. Must be nice to just watch the news and have all the thinking and thought process done for you.

OP, please could you tell us your thinking and thought processes, particularly with regard to the evidence that the plane sighted in the Maldives was going the wrong way and was seen flying after the Malaysian plane's fuel would have run out? I think a lot of people would genuinely like to hear it.

DeeWe · 06/08/2015 10:42

There are and have been many aircrash investigators from all over the world involved. We know someone involved at one point. It would have to be a huge cover up to persuade the lot of them to ignore their professional reputation. They work extremely hard for ridiculous hours in the immediate aftermath.

I've also done a small amount of research in oceanography. Mine was on the Gulf Stream. Things can be very hard to work out drift as currents change, sometimes totally surprisingly. There are little localised currents, and things like the weather can change things too.
That t was one reason why an awful lot of effort was put in at first because the accuracy was greater.

The earring in football stadium's is good, but add to that the earring has broken onto several pieces and the pieces are being blown around the pitches by a swirling and unpredictable wind.

TheFlis12345 · 06/08/2015 10:53

The best summary I heard was from an oceanographer who said yes, it's a bit like looking for a needle in a haystack. But when you don't even know where the haystack was to start with, and it's constantly moving.

AlbrechtDurer · 06/08/2015 10:54

Yep, sack the experts - and replace them with someone who can't even spell Seychelles.

Some, erm, interesting, threads you've started since joining Mumsnet, OP Hmm

youarekiddingme · 06/08/2015 11:01

I thought the plane spotted over the Maldives was proven to be a smaller plan, same colours landing on a smaller island with a fairly new airport?

ChaircatMiaow · 06/08/2015 11:04

Damn OP. Could have saved $100m of our nice Australian taxpayer dollars if we had called you first...

SusanMichelson · 06/08/2015 11:07

Not proven but presumed to be. As linked below.

A Dash-8 is a lot smaller than a triple 7 but it is still fairly formidable - ie a lot bigger than a seaplane.

It depends on the locals and how accurately they are able to identify an aircraft, really.