To ask where I can send my 57p?

[drspouse]

According to the Mirror if all the asylum seekers currently in Calais came into the UK and (highly unlikely) never paid any tax, it would cost each of us 57p.
To save a group of people from some of the most unimaginable horrors in their home countries, I'm more than happy to pay that.
So, where do I sign to pay up (and make it clear I'm happy for them to officially seek asylum and have their claims verified)?

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/not-migrant-hordes--people-6165167

Argh, sorry, Hellothere, I confused you with HellRunner. My post makes no sense, and is unfair to you given that you didn't write HellRunner's other posts.

Still, it's worth reflecting on why we're prosperous - and the impact that has on those in the countries that are less prosperous as a result. It's unsurprising really that some want better.

Swallowed, the migrants are not French. They get off the boat and pass through France to get here.
As far as I know France is a country where a large amount of the population is of African descent, which leads me to believe that the migrants who pass through France and end up in Calais are actually just trying to get here for the cash.

Aww thank you everyone, I'm going all soppy!

If you do want to tell us that Britain is full/we are all going to be robbed in our beds/France should take them all (why France? what is special about France?), then you will find lots of other likeminded people on lots of other threads, I know.

However, I can see there are a lot of people who have not read the article but just saw ASYLUM SEEKERS and copied and pasted all their stuff from other threads. If you had read the article it is not 57p per asylum seeker, which you are right would not pay for much. It is 57p per British taxpayer and it is only necessary if these working age adults never actually work in the UK and/or never pay any tax.

I'm therefore actually investing my 57p, because if we allow more refugees in, who then work and pay taxes, I'll get it back.

The naysayers need not benefit from those taxes. Is that fair?

Anyway I'm off to see if DS has wet the bed again, and have a bath myself, and boring things like that. Thank you again to all the positive voices.

x-post, Hello. Sorry again.

jassy, makes sense now. I agree with you!

you don't need to apologise to me :)

Donated.

drsouse you did a good thing spreading some positivity!

drspouse:
Does your 57p cover the necessary investment in infrastructure such as schools and hospitals that is needed in advance of the taxes that you assume that will be paid?
Didn't think so.

redbinneo no shit Sherlock?!

Yes, the migrants pass throw France. They pass through several countries. For whatever reasons, family already here, friends here, able to speak English, heard about the money trees, they choose to come to the UK.

I don't think that point is in dispute.

My grandfather passed through every country between Russia, Iraq (which he walked to) and the UK to get here. I've no idea what his motivation for going to the UK was, rather than France, or Germany, or wherever. I don't think it Much matters. Here's where he wanted to go and here is where he came.

drspouse I mean, sorry - wine!

I've seen this thread shared three times on facebook :)

Perhaps you need to think up a hashtag?

Swallowed
Was it for the money?

They could just seek asylum in France and then as an EU citizen travel to UK at a later date but don't think any of them fancy their chances with French Immigration probably because mostly they are not legit asylum seekers and the UK is a soft touch.

Swallowed - been to many many countries - poverty is crap, oppression etc but these people are in France they are hardly facing death.

you can go to France, Germany, Luxembourg, Spain, Greece, Poland, Romania or one of many, many other countries yep I can and mostly have and apparently they can too.

Many of those seeking asylum are following family already here, like those poor buggers recent found drowned who tried to swim here:(

I think it's a lovely OP and astounded how many seem to have swallowed UKIPs fear mongering rhetoric. DH posted a link to a snippet from the Daily Fail in late 39s complaining about all the Jews coming here, when we see the full extent of the atrocities committed in these poor souls homelands hopefully we'll all be horrified at the idea of these people being denied sanctuary.

Just as we are further than mainland Europe we fouling shirk our responsibility towards our fellow Humans.

Do you think it's fair that France should accept all the migrants Hellrunner? Is there no shared responsibility?

Morocco is a nice country, they don't have to cross the Med.

asylum in France and then as an EU citizen travel to UK at a later date but don't think any of them fancy their chances with French Immigration probably because mostly they are not legit asylum seekers and the UK is a soft touch

It depends how you view soft touch, we deport people where it's a pretty safe bet that we know they are likely to be tortured or raped or murdered sometimes because we chose to just not believe them.

Malcolm in the middle

As far as I know France is a country where a large amount of the population is of African descent, which leads me to believe that the migrants who pass through France and end up in Calais are actually just trying to get here for the cash.

Oh dear.

1. African is quite a large place with a number of different nations. Some of those nations had strong French influences, some British, some German, some from elsewhere.

1. The migrants in Calais are not all from African countries. Those who are tend to be from Anglophone-influenced countries such Somalia, Sudan, Ethiopia and Eritrea. Perhaps if Britain hadn't purposely dismantled the Eritrean economy and infrastructure in the 1940s to help it achieve its goal if putting together countries that best suited Britain, Eritrea might be in a somewhat different place.

1. Migrants from African countries with a Francophone background or colonial past tend to stay in France. In fact, most migrants do.

1. About 4-6% of the French population is black. Not all of these people are of African origin.

1. Migrants have cited a number of reasons why they wish to seek asylum in the UK rather than France. The most mentioned one I've seen has been language.

Not me I'm afraid....I'll probably need my 57p to go towards the rise in council tax I may face with living in Ashford and the huge bills being incurred by Kent at present re Op Stack, the police bill alone is huge. I do have sympathy, course I do but I sort of struggle a bit (and I'm simply being honest here - pretty sure there are others who might feel the same but fear giving an opinion in case of being slated).

thassallot
I would welcome anyone who tried to swim here from Africa

That's about £18,000 per asylum seeker currently in Calais?

Er ummmm no idea how that happened! Wrong thread

Hellotherehowareyoudoing The best policy would be to send back the boats in the Med. Sending back the boats works for Australia, illegals don't bother trying much any more.