most people that claim to be animal lovers are hugely hypocritical

[unlucky4marie]

My sm is awash with people declaring themselves animal lovers and outraged by that lion. However I know that many of them eat regularly cheap meat and don't give a fuck about where it comes from.

Yes the lion thing is sad,but knowing what goes on every single day to provide people with vast amount s of cheap meat is millions of times worse. Maybe its just the UK where people are that hypocritical and everyone claims to be an animal lover. But actually they only care about a few cute animals that you would see in a zoo and happily stock up on bargain meat without a second thought.

[Whiskwarrior]

Oh my God.

I spelt it wrong on PURPOSE! Along with 'apawlled'. Unless you think I can't spell appalled either?

Anyone reading that post knows it was a joke, a MR joke, that I've seen quite often on here.

Do you even know how to read between the lines?

[Oldraver]

Atenco Veal crates were outlawed in this country many years ago and (I think) it took the rest of Europe quite a while to catch up. But yes as an older person I saw the newsreels of calves going off the continent and it was right to stop that practise.

I did try and convince my 'veal calves are too cute' friends that as dairy eaters they were contributing to their existance but its not what they wanted to hear

[mmollytoots]

Yes I would keep on the look out for a shifty nappy

[WhirlpoolGalaxyM51]

I don't know if it's still the case that purchasing (very expensive) british rose veal, means one less packed into a crate and sent off to europe?

might have a google.

[WhirlpoolGalaxyM51]

yes it is still a good plan if you find yourself with a large budget for your shop, to purchase Rose Veal from Britain for your meaty option

[WanderWomble]

I am an animal lover and I raise my own cows/chickens for meat. I know they've had a good life and a quick death.

[Shakey1500]

I eat meat. I'm not, nor do I profess to be an "animal lover".

I'm still sad about the lion though. So where does that put me?

[bumbleymummy]

I do think that people should eat less, more ethically produced meat rather than eating cheap meat everyday. However, I think the outrage about the lion is different - trophy killing is a separate issue imo.

[Morganly]

I don't think that keeping animals as pets is ethical.

[unlucky4marie]

Yup, I eat cheap meat. I'm skint. If I could afford it, I'd only eat animals raised on a farm, allowed to graze all day in the sunshine.

What do you think I should do, live off air and rainbows?

Your only choice is eating products that inflict cruelty and suffering or starving?

[HayDayRookie]

unlucky I 100% agree with you.

"Oh,look at the cute animal,let's put it in a pie"

[RaskolnikovsGarret]

I know this isn't the point of this thread, but my annoyance is with 'animal lovers' who are happy to have pets and keep them locked up all day without walking them/keeping them company. I am not a fan of pets/animals in general, but I can't abide it when I hear pets barking/wailing inside houses, as it seems so cruel. How can people neglect animals? Or keep a bird caged up? Maybe ironically I am more of an animal lover despite not actually liking them particularly myself.

[PressEscape]

I agree, OP.

[Andrewofgg]

DoeEyedNear The sooner the malaria mosquito is not just endangered but extinct the better. Agree?

[hackmum]

Shakey1500: "I'm still sad about the lion though. So where does that put me?"

It probably makes you quite normal. I think it's one thing to feel sad about the lion and another to hurl all manner of abuse at the man who killed it, with people saying they wish he could be flayed alive and that kind of thing. I think if you're going to make that kind of moral judgement about people, then you do need to have your own house in order.

[RosePetels]

I love animals and I eat meat.
I don't kill animals for pleasure.

[unlucky4marie]

I love animals and I eat meat.
I don't kill animals for pleasure.

Animals are killed for your pleasure to eat, not seeing the difference. Same end result.

[PressEscape]

Exactly. Eating meat is killing animals for pleasure. Except you actually pay someone else to do the killing for you.

[TheOnlyOliviaMumsnet]

PEACE AND LOVE PEOPLE and animals

[WilburIsSomePig]

OP would you please answer the question answered a couple of times. Are you vegan?

[lilacblossomtime]

But wouldn't it be better if people who were (rightly imo) bothered about the cruel killing of a magnificent endangered lion, then start to think about keeping farm animals in much better conditions. Saying you have to be a vegan or you have no entitlement to care about animal welfare and the conservation of our wild creatures is quite wrong. We need to raise awareness of these issues and get people to care about farm animal welfare.

[HoneyDragon]

Rich person kills animal for no good reason

Rich people produce meat cheaply to sell at a profit to people to poor to afford the luxury of ethical meat.

The scummy poor should of course become vegetarians. And the rich should eat naice meat.

I'm sure the lion is really pleased it was tortured, brutalised and then shot so people can get on the Internet and have a I'm soooooo much more ethical than you jerk off.

[AllThePrettySeahorses]

I'm vegetarian and think it was wrong to kill the lion.

But I don't like animals very much cos they are smelly (looking at you, pet cat with the runs ) so where do I stand on the hypocrite scale?

Anyway, it's better to care about something than nothing so what lilacblossomtime and HoneyDragon said.

[unlucky4marie]

Rich person kills animal for no good reason

Rich people produce meat cheaply to sell at a profit to people to poor to afford the luxury of ethical meat.

The scummy poor should of course become vegetarians. And the rich should eat naice meat.

I'm sure the lion is really pleased it was tortured, brutalised and then shot so people can get on the Internet and have a I'm soooooo much more ethical than you jerk off.

I'm actually worried you think like this.

Poor people who never go hungry have a right to eat meat that involves huge amounts suffering and cruelty and generally a miserable life indoors with limited space and stressed. Because someone who never goes hungry has the pleasure to eat something nice trumps animals rights?

Guy kills animal for pleasure, people eat for pleasure.

[Sparklingbrook]

Is this thread still going?