How much do you earn and who do you vote for

[Beautifulbabyboy]

So inspired, by another thread that contained the words "labour are cancer" I am genuinely interested in the correlation between what people earn and who they vote for. Is anyone else interested in this?

Our household income is £125k pa and we vote labour, even though we would be worse off, because I think we should help society as a whole.

I'm a nurse earning around £30k and voted labour (sometimes vote green) dh is a self employed bricklayer, earns around £25k and voted labour

Radical that's a ridiculous argument. If people are losing jobs to immigrants perhaps they need to brush up on their skills

I thought they ran a terrible campaign. They should have focused on leading economists saying austerity is NOT the best way to go. The country does not run like a household budget though many find this difficult to grasp so they didn't push it.

I totally agree with this. What a wasted opportunity.

I too am sick of people thinking of the country's economy as being the same as a household budget.

I don't think Labour particularly care about Poles or Slovaks either. They did have a preoccupation with helping non-white people and were very much preoccupied with race and seemed to often prioritise needs and services on the basis of race. If you didn't work and depended on benefits they might be interested. But as soon as you earned a wage and had a white face, no interest. No interest in affordable housing or decent wages, tax credits were a sticking plaster on those gaping wounds. The only answer they had to any problem was more benefits and it never solved the underlying issues.

And TBH, after Rotherham, I will never vote Labour again. I can't believe the lack of outrage over the rape of 1,400 girls being covered up with race as a largely motivating factor for the cover up. If this had happened in a developing country there would be outrage from the left. But because it's just some white kids from Rotherham they just shrug.

....for whom do you vote......

My income is [ well over£125k pa] and I vote Tory because that is the only way to protect the least fortunate in society. The Labour lot could not run a piss up in a brewery and we would have become another Greece. Week by week more and more people are pleased so many of us voted Tory as it is doing the country so much good.

Lazy again where's the evidence that they don't care about white oeople? This is just anecdotal racist comments and no fact

Combined income of 100k+ and we both voted Green last time (safe Labour seat; I like him and was happy to see him retain the seat but knew it would happen so opted to reduce his majority).

I don't think it's so much "they didn't care about white people" it's more that they were terrified of being labelled racist, so like in Rotherham there was a different attitude to ethnic minorities, which is racist in itself. This was all covered in a report on the scandal at the time I believe.

Oh around 45(partly bonus based so varries) I earn about 5k v part time.

We are early thirties, degree educated, own (small) home in v gd school district, two young kids, numerous hidden disabilities

I voted snp when in Scotland, didn't vote one yr, and voted greens last election (v safe Tory seat) Oh doesn't vote Tory or ukip, but I never ask out right who he votes for. I am probably what most would term left wing, if labour took responsibility for the war decisions and were against austerity/for workers and said they'd fix the tax breaks for the rich & put money back into disability services/address housing needs id become a member tomorrow. If they seemed honest & ccompetent I would be part of the demographic who would be flocking to them.

I guess I see voting as voting against Tory's rather than for anyone- which is sad, there should be more choice.

LittleLion, that's a sweepingly racist statement and one which I expect from the left. Swap 'British' for ''Jamaican' and you'd be told that you were were perpetuating racist stereotypes. But apparently it's fine to do that to someone British.

Also, you clearly know fuck all about the industry you're talking about. Domestic decorating is a tiny part of it and in the main the drop in wages actually increased the profits of large multinational companies building power stations or large infrastructure projects. And given the amount of times over the last few years I've heard of problems caused by Eastern Europeans with massive drink problems or violent tendencies I doubt all of them are as marvellous as some people would have you believe.

And as for 'brushing up their skills'. Fine. Next time the public sector go on strike for a whinge about wanting a bigger pay rise I assume you will be going down to the pickets and tell them if they want to be paid more they should 'brush up their skills' and get a better job. I assume you think the same about people who are facing benefit cuts too? They just need to stop moaning and 'brush up their skills'. Or do you just think poor British people who work deserve everything they get for having the temerity to expect working to pay enough to keep a roof over their heads, pay the bills and still have enough to eat?

Rotherham wasn't about race though Lazy, it was about the culture of the police and local authorities in seeing the girls as child prostitutes rather than victims of sexual abuse. This was based purely on their knowledge of the girls' backgrounds and the assumption that they were willing participants. It's one of the reasons there is now no such thing as child prostitution, only abuse. The police and authorities accepted it was a perceptional problem and it was that which promoted the cover up, not the fact that in that case the perpetrators we're Asian which I think is your main point and one that was seized on as an opportunity for the BNP to go marching through various towns.

It was covered in two reports both after the fact DrDre. I actually find your contention that the cover up was racist towards minorities jaw droppingly offensive.

Yes it was because they didn't care about white girls. They prioritised maintaining a good image for the local Pakistani community above stopping while girls being raped.

Lazy, public sector workers are people with jobs being treated unfairly. Someone who doesn't get a job and blames it on the Polish family is not the same.

Lazy - sorry I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about. What have I said that is racist? I speak as I find and am still checking my doorstep for the hoards of British decorators who have so far not turned up to quote. How is speaking about my experience racist and where have i said about brushing up on skills? I am genuinely confused.

We earn around £40k between us, I vote Labour and DH votes Conservative so that just about cancels each other's votes out .

Neither of us vote the same as our parents - mine were/are staunch Conservative and DH's were Liberal Democrat.

I was trying to say that they had a different attitude towards ethnic minorities because they were afraid of being called racist, which is clearly wrong. I'm sorry if you find that offensive.

^....for whom do you vote......

My income is [ well over£125k pa] and I vote Tory because that is the only way to protect the least fortunate in society. The Labour lot could not run a piss up in a brewery and we would have become another Greece. Week by week more and more people are pleased so many of us voted Tory as it is doing the country so much good.^

^ This in spades.
DW and I earn circa £500k between us and vote Tory because we do firmly believe that Labour will eventually ruin the country if left to it. I have no problem paying my fair share of tax but they seem to have some very funny ideas as to what constitutes 'fair.'
They seek to punish anyone who has dared to do well for themselves (and by that I don't mean exclusively the millionaires but anyone earning over £30/£40k) and will eventually drive most people out of the country - then who will prop up the country.

Labour practice the politics of envy - simple as that!

Between us my DH and I earn £50k from employment and maybe another £10-15k from our small businesses.

I vote Conservative and my DH "doesn't vote".

Yes you are being racist Lion. You have had one experience and you are using that to extrapolate that all British construction workers are lazy and Eastern European ones are hard working.

It's much like if I met a Muslim man today who said that he supported terror attacks and therefore decided from that one experience that all Muslims are terrorists.

And TBH, they probably haven't turned up because you're offering them a small low value job with no repeat business and they're not at the bottom end of the market where they take those jobs, or they're so successful they're already booked up well in advance and aren't so short of work they turn up to quote with a couple of hours notice.

Lashes, I never mentioned people losing out on jobs, I talked about the fact that wages in construction have fallen dramatically. And the fact that if that happened to a job group I the public sector the left would want blood. If it happens to private sector jobs done by men as a result of immigration it's wonderful and they should suck it up.

OK so that's an imagined fear then, yes? Thanks for clarifying

In some cases it is, in some cases it isn't. Hence my use of the terms 'real' and 'imagined'

Keep up at the back, it's really not that difficult.

Household income about £25k take home, both me & DP are phd students so that's all student grant money, and we're both likely to be on much higher incomes in the future. Will happily pay buckets of tax then for a country which takes care of poor & vulnerable, has great education and proper NHS. I voted green last time (conservative-lib dem marginal) but joined labour party after the election to get a say in leadership contest and was delighted when Corbyn joined. He'll get my vote and I'll campaign hard for labour if he wins leadership. OH voted labour last time with gritted teeth but is also now a corbynite member.

?20k, ?22k including bonus / extras - Conservative

DH - ?26k, also Conservative

both country people - DH occupation is country based although I work in accountancy / financy office based stuff.

We're offering the whole house for decorating actually Lazy, so not a small job. We also have more to spend on other jobs we need doing so yes there will be repeat business.

Yes, if I'd said "the British are lazy, expensive workers" that might be deemed racist. I didn't, as unfortunately due to the lack of response I didn't get an opportunity to find out. I did, however, receive a response from one of the eastern European migrants some people are blaming for stealing British jobs. And yet I am the one who is 'racist' apparently

I'm amazed by people who think the conservatives are running the country well. Simply by not tackling the housing crisis there's a ticking time bomb of hell waiting for the country when my generation gets old given that extortionate rents mean few will be able to save for deposit and when they hit retirement the housing benefit bill will be even more dramatically colossal than it is now.

Only those who lack a substantive argument feel the necessity to instead focus on semantics. If you fail to make your argument clearly and constructively then stupid people like me will struggle to keep up Radical. Perhaps your point, whatever it is, real or imagined, was not particularly well made in the first place.