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How much do you earn and who do you vote for

450 replies

Beautifulbabyboy · 29/07/2015 07:08

So inspired, by another thread that contained the words "labour are cancer" I am genuinely interested in the correlation between what people earn and who they vote for. Is anyone else interested in this?

Our household income is £125k pa and we vote labour, even though we would be worse off, because I think we should help society as a whole.

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ChrisQuean · 29/07/2015 11:53

Family income varies, but around £500k p/a. Always voted Labour.

MrsMcColl · 29/07/2015 11:54

Around 60k in total. Varies a bit year to year as I am self employed. Wouldn't dream of voting Tory ever. This time DH and I both voted Green. Have voted LibDem in the past. Could imagine voting Labour in the future. Never base my vote on what I think I might personally gain, but on the kind of country I want to live in.

atticusclaw · 29/07/2015 11:55

Over £250k both conservative voters (in a very marginal seat). Primarily due to approach to economy and debt.

Radicalrooster · 29/07/2015 11:57

Lashesandlipstick, simply cast your mind back to Emily Thornberry's horrified reaction to seeing a St George's flag hanging from a house in Rochester. Tells you all you need to know.

rosesanddaisies · 29/07/2015 11:57

When I was 18 I voted Labour. Missed the second round as was aboard, this time voted Tory as personally didn't trust the Labour leadership to efficiently run the country, though I hate some of the things the Tories have done (closure of A&E departments, etc), but couldn't and can't see a better option right now. Was on £20k, husband now on about £80k. My best friends are on £10k a year and voted labour because they didn't want their benefits cut, but though they are now a little worse off they have said its actually made them go out and make more of an effort to work & not rely so much on the state.

Radicalrooster · 29/07/2015 11:59

Fuck it, may as well join in with the spirit of things

Family income £23 million a year, but would only ever vote for the Worker's Revolutionary Party

Beautifulbabyboy · 29/07/2015 12:02

Bunglecat77 thanks for your analysis. I think that is what I was trying to understand and why I posed the original question.

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LemonPied · 29/07/2015 12:02

£47k household income, I voted labour, DP voted green

LashesandLipstick · 29/07/2015 12:02

Rooster I want actual evidence not some hyperbole about a flag

AlwaysSpoiled34 · 29/07/2015 12:06

Number is very high, it will always be Labour. I will always remember where I come from.

SpecificOcean · 29/07/2015 12:18

Total income around 80k .Dh bonus varies by a few k. Neither of us have ever voted Tory - mostly Labour.

Marylou2 · 29/07/2015 12:18

Household income @125k.Both voted UKIP.

Radicalrooster · 29/07/2015 12:25

Lashes, dismissing the concerns of the white working class vis immigration would be a good example. And don't for one moment tell me that Milliband, or Corbyn, would ever see eye to eye with white working class males protesting at the injustice (real or imagined) being done to them by an unhindered influx of Eastern European economic migrants.

Where do you think a huge proportion of UKIP's 4million odd votes came from? BNP rejects? Conservatives? Or former working class Labour supporters who felt that their concerns were being ignored?

sunshine75 · 29/07/2015 12:27

85k - I voted Labour and DH voted Green.

LashesandLipstick · 29/07/2015 12:28

Radical, last time I checked, Eastern Europeans are white! What are their concerns with regard to immigration other than uneducated racist crap?

UKIPs voters did come from some disillusioned voters - however appeasing racists isn't a good policy

jamdonut · 29/07/2015 12:29

Further to my earlier post: (combined household income just over £23,000 )
I have always voted Conservative, yet have always worked in public sector jobs, and have lived in constant fear of being out of work!!! Luckily, it has never come to that.
My parents and grandparents were disgusted with me when they knew I voted Conservative. I was told " You are working class, therefore you should vote Labour"!
It was that attitude that made me continue to vote Conservative. I don't like that people get ' pigeonholed' and that there is no room for manoeuvre.
As I said before, I don't like everything the Government does ( especially in Education, my current employment being a TA), mostly it is the way they go about things, rather than than the aim, that rankles.

But the Labour Party ,their attitudes and their form with the economy, amongst other things, just does not make me confident in their ability to run the country.

KingJoffreyLikesJaffaCakes · 29/07/2015 12:33

Earn fuck all. Maybe 8K.

Voted green.

sillysausagewithsauce · 29/07/2015 12:34

£100k plus as household income.
Both voted labour though I thought they ran a terrible campaign. They should have focused on leading economists saying austerity is NOT the best way to go. The country does not run like a household budget though many find this difficult to grasp so they didn't push it.

As a teacher there is no way I could ever have brought myself to vote Cons after the horror that was Gove ( and for many other reasons!).

LazyLohan · 29/07/2015 12:35

Lashes, my husband works in the construction industry and works from job to job. When the new EU states joined his wages literally halved overnight and we went from being able to manage to a hand to mouth existence on tax credits. I worked in the public sector at the time and had to watch people on much higher salaries crowing about how marvellous it was they could get a cheap plumber. But it wasn't just people on inflated wages who lost out, people already on low wages like labourers, concrete fixers, slingers all saw their wages decimated by this. And yet this was celebrated by the sort of lefties who'd go on strike if they decided that their pay rise wasn't big enough. If they'd seen pay cuts like that they would have been out in the streets rioting. Yet do it to a sector where most of the employees are white working class males and suddenly it's wonderful.

LashesandLipstick · 29/07/2015 12:40

Lazy that's not down to them being white though. I agree wages for those professions are awful, and should be increased.

LittleLionMansMummy · 29/07/2015 12:44

Radical, we just accepted a quote for some decorating from a Polish man who has been resident in the UK for 14 years. He turned up on time, comes highly recommended as a hard worker with an attention to detail and offered us a great price. Meanwhile none of his British counterparts could even be bothered to turn up and give us a quote. You're not telling me that's because they knew there was no point because they knew they'd be beaten both on price and professionalism by an 'eastern european economic migrant'?

happybubblebrain · 29/07/2015 12:47

It also chimes with my feeling that wealthier people are more likely to feel that the problems of the poor are best solved by chucking benefits at them, because they didn't really experience the futility and hopelessness of communities which developed big dependencies on welfare during the Labour years. I prefer opportunity to dependency.

The problem with this is that there hasn't been more opportunity in the last 5 years, there's been less. And I see even less on the horizon.

I work in the public sector with a few people that voted Conservative, they are now facing unemployment and regretting their decisions. 40 percent cuts to the state mean a lot of people without jobs in the not too distant future and very little welfare to help them out while they look for the non-existent jobs. Where is the opportunity? Somebody must be hiding it.

Radicalrooster · 29/07/2015 12:53

You're not telling me that's because they knew there was no point because they knew they'd be beaten both on price and professionalism by an 'eastern european economic migrant'?

Re-read my post, specifically the part about real or imagined fears. Thanks.

Lashes, the point is that the white working class outnumber the black or Asian working class, are more likely to be involved in trades subject to competition from the recent influx of economic migrants, are more likely to be competing against them for scarce housing and are more likely, as a socio-economic group, to perceive that they have been detrimentally affected by the influx of immigrants, regardless of whether or not this is actually the case. Yet the Labour party simply refused to engage on this issue for many years. It specifically marginalised the particular fears of the white working class from the political debate

Radicalrooster · 29/07/2015 12:56

And to be fair, the proof is in the pudding. If the Labour party truly treasured the vote of the white working class, they'd be in power.

LittleLionMansMummy · 29/07/2015 12:59

OK so that's an imagined fear then, yes? Thanks for clarifying.

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