How much do you earn and who do you vote for

[Beautifulbabyboy]

So inspired, by another thread that contained the words "labour are cancer" I am genuinely interested in the correlation between what people earn and who they vote for. Is anyone else interested in this?

Our household income is £125k pa and we vote labour, even though we would be worse off, because I think we should help society as a whole.

Little

That is revisionist nonsense and you know it.

Police and social services ignored serious crimes including industrial-scale paedophilia, forced marriage, FGM, political corruption and homophobic and anti-semitic incitement in immigrant communities for fear of stirring up inter-community tensions. It has everything to do with race as more often then not certain members of a migrant group of a certain religious persuasion thought white vulnerable girls were just slags who deserved everything they got. For years a climate of fear was created by Labour and their supporters who denounced anyone who dared flag up any of the above issues as racists. Political correctness trumped child abuse. The offical reports and inquiries state as mcuh.

Don?t you dare try and say race had nothing to do with it, your comments are disgusting.

Family income well over 125k.

Don't vote conservative because we don't agree with their austerity measures. For example, the cuts are destroying science and diverting funding for scientific research from blue skies to commercial development (the latter should be funded commercially, not from public money, it is companies which are benefiting from this). I also believe they should be removing universal benefits from high earners (pensioners etc) rather than reducing inheritance tax, cutting corporation tax etc.

Don't vote labour because they failed to deal with unaffordable housing (which affects most people in the SE), introduced tax credits which help low-paying employers more than employees, etc etc.

Don't support the liberal democrats because they like to introduce universal benefits e.g. free school lunches for all infants is a massive waste money imo at a time when school budgets are tight.

Would like a centre party which has a realistic plan to reduce the deficit while stimulating growth, reduce the costs of benefits while protecting the truly vulnerable, stabilise house prices and stop the enormous rate of increase in the SE, ring fence essential services, plan for the long term future of the NHS etc etc.

The problem with what you've said Pan is that Rotherham was not a one off and this has happened up and down the country carried out by perpetrators from a wide range of cultural and racial backgrounds, including plain old white British. Only now are the police realising their own perception of the girls involved is to blame.

Incl property income around £41k.

Tory. Always Tory.

Lazy I agreed with you that wages in that industry are low - that affects everyone who works in it, not just "white British" people.

50k, Labour

DP 60K
Me 30K (part time)

I voted labour at the last election... but am pissed off with them for being too right-wing.

I can honestly say I don't think about my own financial interests when voting... it never occurred to me! I think about how I think a country should be run and about the poorest people being supported. I think that's partly growing up in a very left-wing part of the country in the 80s when, even though I grew up without much money and was much poorer when younger, being left-wing was very much an ideology and a passion.

But I accept that I've never been so grindingly poor that I have to think about my own financial interests in an election. As it is, I would rather the govt took money away from me and used it to benefit poorer people.

In Scotland that is exactly what has happened with the stamp duty rules changing recently. When we next move, we will be hit with a much increased tax bill so that first time-buyers can be taken out of having to pay stamp duty. That is fair and right IMO - because we have made money through property ownership and it should be redistributed.

Immigration has been a big issue for many people. As many people voted UKIP as SNP and yet UKIP got 1 seat and SNP 50 seats! That's democracy for you. However I am Tory and pro immigration as long as it is of hard workers who don't depend on the state. I very much doubt Corbyn will help Labour and I am terribly pleased therefore that he might well get elected as that sound mean 10 years of Tory rule which will be very good for the country. We need to get back to a much smaller state which helps people to help themselves rather than that massive high tax monolithic current system which benefits no one.

To anyone saying they voted Tory to protect the economy- how do you feel they have/are doing that

To anyone saying they voted Tory because they created opportunities- what opportunities where for who?

To the few who said they voted Tory to protect the vulnerable- how do you feel they have/are doing that?

To the one poster who said the Tory's have done more than any other party- in what way have they done that?

To everyone saying labour can't be trusted with the country's economy- in what way can't they be trusted (especially in light of their support of this budget, and previous labour budgets that mirrored Tory's ones)

80k
Labour. Would have voted Lib Dem but the local candidate is a twat.

Household income £130K plus various benefits and bonuses.

We both voted Conservative - it wasn't an easy decision this time around but Labour had literally nothing to offer and the other options scared us.

We don't agree with all of the Tory policies mind you but have no regrets about our vote.

You are being more then disingenuous Little, did you actually read the news or reports at the time?

Sadly Rotherham was not a one off. One constant factoid that you seem to be going out of your way to avoid mentioning is that these organised grooming gangs were overwhelmingly, to quote the reports, men of Pakistani heritage. Now that does not mean no white men are capable of child abuse, but when a certain demographic of the population are responsible for a disproportionately large number of abuse cases you have to start asking questions about the cultural beliefs and attitudes of members of that community. The utter failure of police and social services to do that out of fear of rocking the multicultural boat lies at foot of Labour policies of the day that ensured whistleblowers were silenced and internal reports not acted on.

Reasonably high earners here. DH lifelong Labour voter, me from Tory background but can't bring myself to vote for them. Lib dem or green last 2 elections.

I was involved in the news and reports Pan - I work in policing!

is age relevant to this discussion - given that the sentiment always seems to be that all pensioners vote Conservative because they do better (their £115 per week pension - 6K a year is a fortune, their winter fuel allowance £2 a week is not needed, and of course there is the bus pass (where there are buses) and not forgetting the £10 Christmas bonus
I think you will find the average/mean income for a single pensioner is around £13k - not a lot for most of you it would seem

LittleLionMansMummy, I made the point that white working class males often labour under a series of assumptions and fears, real or imagined depending on what that fear is.

I'n not getting your evident confusion. You don't exactly have to be splitting atoms to follow the points being made.

Radical in that case the issue is lack of education then

So we Tories are being asked where are the Tory improvements. There are heaps and a very good start has been made. If you bankrtup a country as Labour nearly did then you cannot support the vulnerable so the very good start the Tories have made to ensure that does not happen is already a huge win for the less well off. They are also increasing the tax free allowance and are looking at a merger of tax and national insurance (something I have supported for years). At the moment the average tax credit recipient pays about the same in tax as they are given back in tax credits - a massive massive waste. That is being changed.

High income family. Vote labour as I have a social conscience. It's not actually beneficial to us to vote this way. Conservative is better for us financially but we haven't always been well off and I genuinely believe in a socialist society

Household gross income about 125k. I work in the public sector. Labour sent us into Iraq, followed this with a round of redundancies in 04 and continued interfering in day to day home matters; only Surestart centres were good. If there is a hell, Tony Blair must be going straight to it. He saw a route to power and undermined socialist ideology and fundamental fairness through lies. I vote Conservative- they can be shitebags but they stick to their ideology.

Radical in that case the issue is lack of education then

Yes, because anyone with an A-Level believes that large-scale immigration at the expense of the legitimate concerns of host communities is a good thing.

Radical lack of education doesn't refer to exams - you can have a degree yet be terribly ignorant.

Husband is a HR tax payer and votes Tory when he can be bothered. Did this election but I don't think he voted in the last one

I earn minimum wage for an approx 8 hour a week job, voted lib den this year but have voted Tory in the past

Joint income is about 55k. Labour.

Red- proportionally we were in great debt after the second world war and yet public spending was increased and welfare state & NHS created and the economy boomed. In a depression economists suggest we increase spending to help the economy. Poor people spend money (and therefore put it back into the economy) so cutting monies from these people means less spending. Generally in times of depression rich save (general economic trend) so giving them more money (or increased tax allowances, higher cut off for higher rate tax, higher inheritance tax threshold etc) doesn't go back into the economy.

Increased personal allowance is only £80 per year (I think) not much for anyone on a higher income, doesn't come close to the tc cuts many face (including many people with disabilities, or children with disabilities) and doesn't even apply to some of us who only work part time around partners, or school time etc and who can't use married man's tax allowance as we are not married (and maybe can't afford to get married)

Do you have more information on ni&tax being combined? What then happens to contribution based benefits (including contribution based esa- claimed by many with disabilities, or cancer etc) and how much actual money will be saved?