How much do you earn and who do you vote for

[Beautifulbabyboy]

So inspired, by another thread that contained the words "labour are cancer" I am genuinely interested in the correlation between what people earn and who they vote for. Is anyone else interested in this?

Our household income is £125k pa and we vote labour, even though we would be worse off, because I think we should help society as a whole.

Household income of around £110,000 (almost equally split, although I earn slightly more than DH). We both voted SNP in the last election, and I have voted LibDem in the past. You literally couldn't pay us to vote Tory. I plan to vote Green in the next Scottish elections.

Household income approx £200,000, conservative.

Really? That the welfare state will be 'destroyed'? As in it will no longer exist?

Hyperbole and bullshit
Radical it is being destroyed, it may well come from the ashes as something different, but when people point out that it is being destroyed, they mean as they know it. Which you of course, fully understand you just like to play word games, which for those of us that are experiencing the destruction of the welfare state, as we know it, is really rather unpleasant.

Fearing losing your job to"them immigrants" isn't the same..

It is if you've lost your job to an immigrant.

The building trade is a perfect example. Are Polish builders good? Yes. Hard-working? Yes. Welcome? Yes. Cheaper? Oh yes. Have British tradesmen been lost their jobs or suffered wage cuts as a consequence of their presence here? Yes.

Give me strength. Not everything that non-left wing working class men complain about is entirely fictional, you know.

Radical how is it any different to losing your job to a British person?

My income is about £65,000 and I voted SNP. Would do so again.

£18k - floating voter. I have voted Labour, Lib Dem amd Plaid Cymru. I voted Labour in this General Election mainly because of the threat in this region of UKIP. In the Assembly elections I will be voting Plaid. Labour have made a complete shambles of the Welsh NHS and are making no real effort to stop the deterioration

Household income approx 40,000, I am a die hard Labour voter, partner I don't really know, bit of a floating voter I think. (He claims to be a facist but I don't believe him).

Fuck my old boots, the average household wage on this thread is presently standing at about £150k. MN - oligarch central

Dawn, you know as well as I do that using words like 'destroyed' in relation to the welfare state or NHS is emotive and inaccurate. Just like certain claims over immigration. No different. My point stands - some fears over the NHS or welfare state are real, some are imagined (through misunderstanding, inaccurate reporting, for example). Precisely the same thing applies to the immigration debate. Yet one side in that particular debate is branded ignorant.

I think of the Tories as having a real strong hold amongst the self employed working class. Like my parents.

Sadly, they have no understanding of how much the current elitist Tory government hate people like them.

Radical how is it any different to losing your job to a British person?

Because a British person can't work, or live, as cheaply as many economic migrants can, particularly if that migrant is provided with certain in-work benefits. Hence you are losing your job not to fair competition, but to cheap, subsidised and imported labour.

Even you might feel miffed if an economic migrant rocked up and offered to do your job for half the money. No personal animosity towards them, just frustration at a system that appears to screw you over. You don't have to be ignorant to feel outraged.

Mind you, I'm a capitalist so I couldn't give a fuck either way.

Household 200+ and I am a member of the Labour Party. I believe I am obliged to contribute to the society in which I live and help people meet their aspirations regardless of circumstance. I voted for David M in the last leader election. I am at an utter loss who to vote for and why this time. I recently moved out of a labour safe seat to a lib dem / Tory marginal and voted lib dem in May voting for the candidate and his excellent record as a long standing mp. If labour go too far down the snp left wing ideology with the election of a new leader I wonder if I'll really be labour anymore.... Dh is not so political and could have voted Tory or spoiled the paper for all I know - I dragged him to the polling station!

Radical but a lot of these jobs are paid minimum wage, you can't pay below that, so I do t see how it's unfair. I personally think the minimum wage should be higher but that's not what we're talking about. Are you suggesting polish people work for less than the minimum wage and are getting benefits?

Me not very much ( newly qualified teacher), Dh a fair bit more, household income v healthy, but we are both Labour voters.
I voted Labour when I was higher earner too.

Household income £150k +

SNP voters.

Dawn, you know as well as I do that using words like 'destroyed' in relation to the welfare state or NHS is emotive and inaccurate.
Emotive yes. Inaccurate, definitely not.

permentrecord

I think most people are easily influenced by media, and that's back up by a fair bit of psychology. The majority of the press is owned by the same 'side' so to speak- sure people who have set left wing ethos can seak out left wing publications, but for many undecided, or perhaps unconfirmed, the significant and mostly unquestioned bias has an effect.

I never disputed this, what I'm disputing is this frequently used bogeyman that the only reason the current government got in was because of some sustained propaganda that only those on the left can see through, you will be hard pressed to find any unbiased news source anywhere in print and even with the advent of social media they have inherently become echoe chambers which both left and right are guilty of.

You only have to look at MN before the election and the aftermath afterwards to see an example of this, if MN was representative I think we would have had a Green/lab coalition government?

i posted the yougov poll of how we actually voted, depending on how you view stats you can see that people who read the papers do follow the bias of the paper, but there is a small percentage of each paper who vote for the opposition, these haven't fallen for the propaganda have they? The guardianistas who vote conservative or the sun/Mail reader who vote labour, papers and news outlets always push and set an agenda, but there is also the opposite of the public that dictates and sways the narrative of the press (although not as much admittedly)

I stand by my assertion that you are implying that people are only informed if they vote the way you approve of.

As for me we have a household income of ~140k and voted Lib Dem

£24k personally.

£60k total household.

Labour.

Household income around £250k.

I have never, ever voted Conservative (and hope I never will).

At last election I voted Green, DH voted Libdem.

Ok. So now my question. If you earn less than £50k why vote Tory?

To answer your question Op, because I believe that they will serve THE COUNTRY best. My income is irrelevant.

Some will vote in accordance with their own best interests. Some will vote for a particular party every time no matter what the policies of that party (and proudly announce that they will never change their allegiance, come what may.....) some vote for the party that they think best to serve the whole.

HTH

Household income £55k, Tory.

The Tories are very supportive of the welfare state including the NHS. Only under the Tories can it afford to survive! Under Labour there would be no money to run it. Thus the people spoke and they made a wise choice and many of us support them (and this Government) in this.

Are you suggesting polish people work for less than the minimum wage and are getting benefits?

I'm suggesting that many of them (Polish, Bulgarian, Romanian, whatever) particularly in the trades, can and will work cash-in-hand. Regardless of whether those jobs are minimum wage (brickie's mate) or quite highly paid (sparks or plasterer), by living cheaply, particularly by occupying sub-letted properties with large numbers of their fellow migrants, who sleep numbers to a room, they can cope with a far lower standard of living for the duration of their stay, and can easily undercut British workers who are likely to have sizeable mortgage or rent payments to make. Where, for example, do you think your friendly local Albanian Supermarket car-wash guys live? One to a flat? Or five to a room somewhere? There's nothing illegal about it, and it's simply capitalism in action. Good luck to them. But it exists, and you're being disingenuous suggesting it doesn't.

What nonsense red

It's true. Absolutely true. There are concrete fixers from India on DH's jobs who work 16 hour days, are driven 2.5 hours there and back sleeping in a van and have a few hours to kip on the floor of someone's garage and use an outdoor tap and camping cooking equipment.

Similar things happen on farms and in takeaway food shops.