How much do you earn and who do you vote for

[Beautifulbabyboy]

So inspired, by another thread that contained the words "labour are cancer" I am genuinely interested in the correlation between what people earn and who they vote for. Is anyone else interested in this?

Our household income is £125k pa and we vote labour, even though we would be worse off, because I think we should help society as a whole.

which is why the brighter people in the UK, those who earn mroe, the sensible ones voted the Tories

Yeah tbh I don't think earning a high salary or voting Tory automatically makes you bright...

I'm not sure how I would like people to vote- so you cant dissmiss my genune concern by that claim. I'm fairly undecided on the right way or the best party, although from what I've seen of the torys, and the effect of coalition I know I'd vote against them- knowing who I'd want everyone else to vote in is another issue altogether. I do very much want the electorate to make very informed decsions- and I don't think many do.

I think most people are easily influenced by media, and that's back up by a fair bit of psychology. The majority of the press is owned by the same 'side' so to speak- sure people who have set left wing ethos can seak out left wing publications, but for many undecided, or perhaps unconfirmed, the significant and mostly unquestioned bias has an effect.

Bambambini Wed 29-Jul-15 10:23:46
Georgiedawes

You said you grew up with Tory values - so what do Tory values mean to you? I grew up in a council estate, very working class northern town. Just curious as i imagine we had very different upbringings.

I said Tory views.

I grew up on a farm, with friends that also had farms.

One of Labour's mistakes was the high-handed assertion that working-class people's concerns had arisen because they were manipulated/naive/uninformed through failure to read the Guardian. It is time to realise that this stance is condescending and unproductive.

I earn £9 per hour. Staunch Conservative.

Red- it depends what you mean by economic growth, or if you look into it at all. There was a recession early1980s, and early 1990s. There are many other factors than just who is in government, but we can view how they manage it- 1980s one was very badly managed.

There's also the effect a governments policy's has on the economy- pprivatising council houses with only redistributing a minimal amount back into social housing was the biggest factor in our over inflated housing market- that led to the banking crisis- and labour pretty much had to bail them out because the economic crash that would have ooccurred would have had much bigger ramifications. When it comes to very top level bankers it'snot like they could have just found new ones to take on that kind of crash.

The other effect of the inflated housing market is that people can'tafford to buy, yet have no social housing to fall back on, so end up stuck renting- where they have minimal rights. The llandlords charge considerable more than the average social housing, and more than many morgages- so housing benefit pays out for this. So public money goes to private llandlords, who in turn are much more likely to snap up other housing as they have assesst to borrow against- which continues the hhousing market boom- which continues the above problems. All created by the Tory's.

The current effect of austerity is yet to be seen, however even the IMF are now on record as saying austerity is not working and will not effect economic growth- and they are most definitely not left wing.

I should have said contributed not led to the economic crisis- there were outside factors also

Love the argument that ' the economy always does better under the Tories so all right thinking intelligent people vote Tory' < snigger>
For starters that assumes that the state of the economy is the only factor which voters should be using when deciding how to vote. You could argue that, but it is only part of how I decide how to vote. I grew up under Mrs T, and the state if the economy isn't the only thing I remember from that time.
And the underlying assumption that people only disagree with what one has decided is right because they are too stupid to understand why one is right is a bit lacking in intelligence itself IMO ( but then I would think that ).

I earn about 2.5k, household income of around 28k. I voted Labour in the last election, hubby voted Green.

The economy has always done better under the Tories and worse under Labour which is why the brighter people in the UK, those who earn more, the sensible ones voted the Tories.

You do know that economics Nobel Prize winners such as Amartya Sen and distinguished academics such as Stephen Hawking are critical of the government's austerity policies, right? Because clearly these people aren't "bright" and nor do they earn much... (Hawking makes more for a one minute commercial than most lawyers do in a year.)

Radical that's not what I'm saying, questioning immigration is fine. Having "imagined fears about immigration" is not, and IS ignorant.

If having imagined fears is indicative of ignorance, then how to you explain the claims by many on the Left (and on MN) that the Conservative party are in the process of 'destroying' the welfare state, 'destroying' the BBC, 'destroying' the NHS. All 'imagined' fears. Does it render them ignorant?

There are plenty of economists who support the Government's stance too. Look which nation has done so much better of most of them in Europe precisely because of the Coalition's austery parties. The electorate ni the UK saw that and wanted more but better which is what the Tories give them.

Single adult - 32k. I work in the public sector but I voted Tory because I had more trust and confidence in Cameron than I did in anyone else. I did research policies etc but i ended up voting on instinct rather than anything else.

Radical, I'd have to see specific comments. Random things you've seen don't really mean much in a debate without context..

Not currently earning but was earning £70-100k (depending on bonus) before I was made redundant. We've been trying to set up a business so in recent years we've been living off savings and ad hoc consultancy fees (savings meant that we didn't claim a single penny in benefits except child benefit ) Dh has just taken on a 2 year contract earning c£45k pa while I continue to progress the business opportunity.

We both voted SNP - and have done in all recent elections (although dh lent one of his votes to our local Tory councillor in the council elections where he is the sole Tory representative and does a good job but he's not going to vote for him again )

In the past, I've voted Labour and then SDP/LibDem when I lived in England in constituencies where Labour didn't stand a chance. I've voted SNP since 1997 (the first general election after I moved back to Scotland) after we were doorstepped by Nicola Sturgeon. Up until then I was planning on voting Labour.

I was brought up in a Labour household (dad a doctor, mum a teacher) but even my parents moved as Labour lost its principles first to the LibDems (after the Iraq War) and then the SNP.

My DH and vote differently - and I change who I vote for from election to election, so I dunno what to answer! I've never blindly voted for one party in 30 years of voting.

We earn around 90k pa between us. We both vote labour

From the last election we already know that MN is predominately left wing.

As for myself I spoil the ballot as I believe the system we have is wrong as it is not a true representation of the population.

And

I wouldn't vote for any of the lying, cheating, scheming, selfish bastards that currently want the job.

Lashes, if you want to see specific comments, just use the search function here on MN, and type in the words 'destroy', 'nhs' 'welfare state' etc. Fill your boots. There's even a thread that you feature in (Reserving your right to call someone a cunt, as it happens. Classy).

Alternatively, you can just read this sort of socialist claptrap

www.sochealth.co.uk/2015/03/16/the-five-year-forward-view-plan-to-destroy-the-nhs/

Ignorant? Or just a perspective?

that the Conservative party are in the process of 'destroying' the welfare state, 'destroying' the BBC, 'destroying' the NHS. All 'imagined' fears. Does it render them ignorant?
They are not imagined fears. Certainly with regard to the welfare state and the experience of a fair few people clearly demonstrates that they are not imagined but very real.

House hold income of roughly £100,000. I earn less than £20,000 but pro-rata £40,000. Both voted Tory. Both northerners. I was tempted by the libdems but live in a largely tory/ occasionally labour voting area so seemed like a waste of a vote. I myself am probably worse off under Tory as I work for the NHS but I voted what I believe is the overall greater good for the country and the economy.

Really? That the welfare state will be 'destroyed'? As in it will no longer exist?

Hyperbole and bullshit

Radical, those specific comments are often referring to people's personal experiences. Someone who's lost their support has a very real fear - not ignorant.

Fearing losing your job to"them immigrants" isn't the same..

£40k
Conservative

£120k, Tory voter