How much do you earn and who do you vote for

[Beautifulbabyboy]

So inspired, by another thread that contained the words "labour are cancer" I am genuinely interested in the correlation between what people earn and who they vote for. Is anyone else interested in this?

Our household income is £125k pa and we vote labour, even though we would be worse off, because I think we should help society as a whole.

beautiful how worse off will you be? I saw tables and they showed people in your bracket to actually gain money?

We however are in the 20K bracket, we will loose an awful lot of money next year in april.

We voted conservative this time due to many many reasons and because we believe in voting for greater whole not just what would benefit us - even on such a low income.

I'm amazed by people who think the conservatives are running the country well.

Well we do have a very effective propaganda machine and people are very easy to manipulate.

I meant 'rich' not for it to be in bold....

Rotherham wasn't about race though Lazy, it was about the culture of the police and local authorities in seeing the girls as child prostitutes rather than victims of sexual abuse

We all know race was a key part of why nothing was done, documents, people working in the council, documentary upon documentary have all clearly said race - and fearing the lable racist was a predominant factor in nothing being done, as well, the girls backgrounds and then the general background of not taking sex attacks seriously.

So please please don't come and try and say - race was nothing to do with it, Labour GAGGED THE PUBLIC over mass immigration and all sorts of things it became like Stazi communist culture, thankfully its being lifted now and people can speak again.

people are very easy to manipulate

Yes indeed like the long reign of Blair where all we heard about with all the above going on and worse was - fox hunting ban.

• PanGalaticGargleBlaster Wed 29-Jul-15 13:59:44

sorry only skim read thread when commented still reading but agree with every word you say.

Happy it is frightening the effect the media has, and how people don't look past that (as in who owes it, what bias there is) and there is so so little opposition to Murdoch owned press/dm etc so it is very difficult to find a variety of perspectives- that may increase critical thinking.

In 2014 it was leaked that the UN was gearing up to investigate the UK as the first ever country to violate theconvention on the rights of people with disabilities (truely an atrocious first to bear responsibility for). The leak, while obviously unsubstantiated by the UN (due to the confidential nature of these things) wasn't discredited, neither was the professor who leaked it. And disability rights UK launched a parallel investigation as a result. Now try googling that and find the teeny teeny amount of press coverage that gained. It's as if we are living in a dictatorship via proxy of the media. There is one view shoved down everyone's throats and no one really questions this perspective- even when it directly contradicts their reality.

Interesting do you think the race of the paedophile rings surrounding the whole elms guest house scandal will be mentioned or even be made to have any relevance? I suspect it won't be....

Just caught up on the thread on my lunch break D:

I agree with Pan and Rooster

And no one answered my question from a while ago- if Labour help the 'most vulnerable' and 'protect the welfare state' why did they come out and say they supported the cuts Osborne proposed at the budget earlier this year? Why did they support cuts to welfare budget all through their election campaign?

My dad is a labour supporter, he supports labour like a football team and lives by the mantra 'Tories want to make the rich richer and the poor poorer' I prefer- 'Labour just want everyone to be poor' What good will hand outs do in the long run? When the economy is on the floor and people can't better themselves because of it. I would rather people were given opportunities than money.

I was brought up in a very low income Northern town, lots of troubled council estates, some of the worst schools in the country. Its a Labour safe seat and the MP is useless.

Exactly Holowiwi. My point is that these children are abused by virtue that they are vulnerable, not because Pakistani gangs see them as slags and fair game. Jimmy Savile's abuse was covered up. The abuse of children by politicians in the highest seats of power was and no doubt still is covered up. The common denominator? Children who are beneath the radar, in care, come from families who neither know nor care where they are, what they're doing or who they're with. Rotherham is a useful distraction because people can attribute that to rogue Pakistani groups of men with no respect for their white victims. But what about all the abuse carried out in the Catholic church, by celebrities and those in power?

Sorry should clarify - that particular gang, who happened to be Pakistani, did no doubt see the girls as slags and fair game. Unfortunately so too do many other 'groups '.

permenantrecord Whilst media does play a significant role this rhetoric gets tiresome. The message that's always implied seems to be "Silly public being Murdoch pawns, if it wasn't for Murdoch they'd vote for the correct party" (Labour)

Household income should be around 175k this year. Both voted conservative this time, both previously lib dem voters.

yougov.co.uk/news/2015/06/08/general-election-2015-how-britain-really-voted/

www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3575/How-Britain-voted-in-2015.aspx?view=wide

£85k I usually vote labour DH usually conservative. We both have the same problem, we believe in the ethics of the labour party but our self interests are served by the conservatives. At the moment neither of us feel the labour party could deliver and would make a mess of the economy so I expect I'll vote conservative next time.

Radical lack of education doesn't refer to exams - you can have a degree yet be terribly ignorant

Really? I never knew that.

The fundamental premise of your argument appears to be that those who question unrestricted immigration (I.e. those who hold a different view to you) are ill-educated, to the extent of actually being classed as ignorant.

A ludicrous, patronising proposition if ever I heard one, and one that doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It's also why the Labour party is has such difficulty in appealing to significant elements of the working class, as pointed out earlier.

About £140k I vote Labour, DH Tory

Just- I don't vote for labour, and have serious concerns about their cover ups, but am still seriously concerned by how so many people are so easily influencedby the media rather than making an informed decision.

Posted too soon- its not rhetoric from me, I don't see labour as the 'right' party so it is real concerns about the influence of right wing owned media

Radical that's not what I'm saying, questioning immigration is fine. Having "imagined fears about immigration" is not, and IS ignorant.

permenantrecord Ah, the "Im not labour"

That doesn't matter, however you are still implying that any one who has not voted the way you like has done so without making an informed decision.

Do you take this stance with those who voted for left leaning parties, because you cant seriously be suggesting that only those who vote conservative have done so without making an informed decision.

As for people being influenced by media, that's what it does and unfortunately, both the left and the right seek out news/outlets to reinforce there own beliefs, it is not restricted to one political view point.

The economy has always done better under the Tories and worse under Labour which is why the brighter people in the UK, those who earn mroe, the sensible ones voted the Tories. The fact some on the left are squirming about that is just how it goes. We had to suffer Labour rule in the past. You just have to live with it or hopefully we can convert even more Labour voters to the Tory cause for 5 years' time and have landslide majority.

Labour lost of a lot of their traditional working class voters because of the immigration issue - no one should lose sight of that.

which is why the brighter people in the UK, those who earn mroe, the sensible ones voted the Tories

I could just as easily say that those with empathy, compassion and kindness voted labour/lib dem, but stereotyping voters of either side does nothing for the discussion and is immature

Also correlating brightness to how much someone earns is very narrow minded, arrogant and incorrect

Week by week more and more people are pleased so many of us voted Tory as it is doing the country so much good.
Tosh.