To ask everyone to eat less meat and meat products?

[Breadandwine]

There are 3 reasons I eat a plant-exclusive diet:

1. I feel I'm healthier (I became veggie to avoid BSE - and my osteoarthritis has been stopped in its tracks since I went vegan)
2. Animal welfare issues (I went vegan after looking at the inevitable cruelty involved in the meat and dairy industries)
3. Global warming/climate change (the single most important thing anyone can do to fight GW is to go vegan - the world's livestock industry contributes more to GW than does transport!)

Before global warming reared its ugly head, I was quite reticent about my veganism, only talking about it when I was asked. But now that our children's and our grandchildren's future is threatened, I'm a lot more vocal.

And now there's me and the Pope on the same side - who'dda thunk it?

crusts have a quick Google love and then give your head a wobble

Crustaway, you don't think meat eating and global warming are connected? never heard that one before.

The expression "fit as a flea" does make laugh, I wonder how to test it!

Heading for a catastrophe? Do to have a link to that info

Ah Google where we always find out the truth

Good for you, but nah

I don't actually eat much meat, let alone meat-based fast food, but exhortations like yours, OP, make me want to drive to McDonalds.

I am also vegan but still eat steak and bacon ... and eggs and chicken. But I'm happy with that. Each to their own.

YANBU.

Supporting animal farming by eating meat is helping to kill the planet.

Lucy if you have critical faculties then it can be a source of credible information. If you don't, then not so much.

Coffee cultivation 'involves cutting down trees, and high inputs of chemical fertilisers and pesticides. Environmental problems, such as deforestation, pesticide pollution, habitat destruction, soil and water degradation, are the effects of most modern coffee farms and the biodiversity of the coffee farm and in the surrounding areas suffer'.

And that's coffee, which is as vegan as can be. Can you imagine the effects of growing many more tons and tons of plant/grain/vegetable matter to feed the world?

People make lots of choices that environmentally damaging- flying, driving, having children. I think unless you have to take the other choices people have made into account, and also realise how some of your own choices are just as damaging as eating meat.

Vegans are up there with people who sell Forever Living and Herbalife

Boring as fuck but quite entertaining to watch

Where we live decent meat is very, very expensive so we stopped eating it for that reason. It is amazing how good veggie/vegan food can be. My DH is often surprised that 'no meat can be so nice'. I think we are healthier. If the OP could see how they are selling the luxury experience of 'steak' in China, she would be appalled!

Your OP comes across as extremely condescending and self-congratulatory. I eat meat, I like meat, I won't stop eating it. Sorry if that doesn't sit well with you.

Ywnbu to have urged people to reduce the amount of factory farmed meat and dairy they consume and eat more products from ethically treated animals.
Ywnbu to point out we don't need to be cramming down shit loads of meat each day as a pious offering to his holiness Lord Atkins
But yabu to make out there's any issue in consuming either meat or dairy, it's not either immoral to humanely use animals for food, or physically bad for us.
Yabu to make out being vegan is better environmentally for global warming. Humans have evolved to be omnivores, and whilst it's possible to be a v healthy vegan nowadays, that's only because of modern amenities, which have their own impact on the environment.
Also yabu to imply it's a possible treatment for osteoarthritis when it's not
Yabu to think the popes opinion on anything remotely scientific is a persuasive argument in favour.

I'm close to veggie as it is (only eat meat a couple of days a week at most) but evangelical vegans make me want to bash the nearest lamb over the head with a brick and eat it raw, which I'm pretty sure isn't the effect they're hoping for.

Lol page I eat it only a few times a week but fancied pork chops after reading the op

lks, or as 'imposing my views'! Not my intention at all. I guess I just want to raise people's consciousness

Because we are too thick to work these things out ourselves? How insulting.

*YANBU.

Supporting animal farming by eating meat is helping to kill the planet.*

pressescape - using electricity and buying electronic devices are also killing the planet.

But what would we do with the huge backlog of uneaten cows and pigs and sheep and chickens? Pretty soon we'll be chest deep in all those animals. We'll have to put down planks across their backs so we can walk about on top of them. We'll have to step out of second floor windows onto their backs to get out the house. So what about people in bungalows? Won't people think about the people in bungalows trapped forever by a succulent meaty barricade?! YABU.

I want to live in a bungalow!! I'll fire up the BBQ!

Abby yes coffee like all agriculture has a negative effect on the environment but the less meat production in the world less grain needed it takes many many kilos of grain to produce a kilo of meat (and vast quantities of water). I am not vegan or vegetarian but I can understand this. Yes there are areas of land ( high moorland in the UK) that can only produce food by use of grazing animals ie sheep but they produce a tiny proportion of the worlds meat. Mass, cheap production of meat require mass production of grain. Meat should be absent or an occasional treat for the environmentally conscious.

No idea why people are being so rude to the OP.

She doesn't come across as preachy or condescending at all - just putting forward a point of view, and making a valid point. Since when was that not allowed?

It's really disturbing actually, that when someone speaks up and politely suggests something that challenges the way people live and think, that people turn on them and attack. What about giving it some thought? It's fine to disagree, but maybe offer some reason as to why you think she's wrong?

Personally I eat meat, but don't feel entirely comfortable with it, and agree with the OP that the world would be a better place if we all ate less of it.

Personally I think vegans, or the ones I know, are quite hypocritical. Especially when it comes to the global warming stuff.

I go out of my way to eat local. We grow a lot of our own fruit and veg and buy the rest from local farms. We try to and eat what's in season. We also buy our meat from local farms.

Compare to my vegan friends who eat tons of imported food. i know we have less negative impact that my vegan friends.

Yabu in my opinion because not eating meat doesn't mean you are automatically making the world a better place.

And don't get me started on the neighbours who are vegan but drive 3 huge range rovers, whileoaning about pollution

Yeah YABU

I don't eat meat. But I cook it for my family.

You're being just as bad as a god pusher. Back off other people.