To already be fed up with teachers/eduaction workers posting about their long holiday!

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Facebook is swarming with people saying how much they deserve it and other people patting them on the back. It seems like the world and his wife are in education or SAHM's with 6 glorious weeks ahead of them. Apart from a one week holiday I have a juggling timetable of various childcare arrangements to run to and fro from.

The satisfaction of seeing young minds develop should be enough sovery...

That, and the wine/chocolates at the end of the school year.

Take very few observations...perfectly possible! Academies, free schools, schools where the teachers teach their own curriculum.

Take very few observations...perfectly possible! Academies, free schools, schools where the teachers teach their own curriculum.

Obviously I meant Sahm.

I do not think they should be paid any less.
But there are stressful jobs like being a manager of a children's home, including managing staff and working unsocial hours, where the pay can easily be only £30,000. If you have that kind of post, it must be galling to hear teachers complain about what they do for their salary.

But teachers on here aren't complaining. Just defending themselves.

Everyone is allowed to complain about what they do for a living.

It's the universal perk.

Sorry you didn't comprehend also what I was saying was that what we would believe is that teachers really believe they DESERVE all the holiday, even those who do the minimal (or have someone else do it for them)...it does happen. Maybe yes the crap teachers should get themselves up to,scratch on areas such as comprehension that they're not so good at.

Seriously. Are education staff the ONLY ones who EVER complain about their jobs?

Erm...Iamjeff I can't tell if you're having a dig....I didn't 'comprehend' what you were saying and crap teachers should 'get themselves up to scratch on areas such as comprehension'?

Can you clarify if you're having a go so I can decide if I want to be offended?

In fairness, IAmJeff's post is pretty incomprehensible

I'd love to have 13 weeks holiday to spend with my dd but my job only gives me 6 weeks. So it's a constant juggle to cover the other 7 weeks. Education isn't childcare but there's no escaping the need to find some childcare when schools are closed. There seems to be very little understanding or empathy from the teaching profession. Hence the school newsletters saying "Great news - we've arranged our inset days so you can have a long weekend". For most working parents this isn't great news it's just a headache and a long weekend isn't an option unless you want to lose 2 days from your summer holiday.

I agree that childcare to cover school holidays if you work FT is a major nightmare. It's a mega perk of teaching that you don't have to sort it out.

I don't know what the solution is though - being in school 45 hours a week for 46 weeks a year cannot be good for kids, so that's not a solution,

I really don't know. Longer holidays from non teaching jobs? 6 weeks a year per parent and double for lone parents to cover the time the kids aren't at school? Wouldn't be affordable....?

INSET days are days your child is not required to be in school, they aren't 'extra'. When would like them scheduled?

The only way of not having any childcare issues is not having children. Childcare is NOT the fault of school staff.

The point wasn't about inset days, but the insensitive way the school newsletter announced them as if parents would welcome them.

It would be grossly unfair to give parents more annual leave than non parents.

Do we really have to go through this again?

I work hard. DH (not a teacher) works hard. We both work evenings, we both do some work at the weekends. I get 6 weeks in the summer, he gets a bonus and a car allowance. Swings and roundabouts.

Also, I'm a mum. One of these "working parents" teachers like to annoy with INSET days. I do have to find childcare for INSET days. What do you think we do? Take our kids with us?

Would midweek have been better?

Exactly, everyone would have to get more leave.

What would be a better way of announcing it?

"Swings and roundabouts."

Except it's not that black and white. There are few perks like a company car for public sector workers or indeed retail workers, for example. So, I can see why a person might see a teacher posting on social media saying they "need and deserve a break" and get irate. I don't feel that way but I can empathise with those who do. It's not belittling teachers and their roles but the way some people present themselves.

That said, do teachers really get a 6 week break? By the time they've finished from the previous year and prepared for the next, it's actually far less.

Teachers do not like to annoy parents with INSET days, they'd take their week's holiday back like a shot if they could.

Hang on... that's the other teacher- bashing thread on AIBU.

Exactly, public sector workers do not get bonuses or company cars. Many people get no perks in their jobs.

wideopen I think most parents would suggest they took place during school holidays. Which would give teachers an extra week's pay if I understand the pay structure correctly.

Childcare isn't the teachers problem. We all get that, honestly we do, but just saying don't have children unless you take the time off isn't a solution. In that scenario the only people who could have children would be teachers or families sufficiently wealthy for one parent to not work during school holidays and sadly that is increasingly not an option.