To already be fed up with teachers/eduaction workers posting about their long holiday!

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Facebook is swarming with people saying how much they deserve it and other people patting them on the back. It seems like the world and his wife are in education or SAHM's with 6 glorious weeks ahead of them. Apart from a one week holiday I have a juggling timetable of various childcare arrangements to run to and fro from.

How does teachers salary/pay work with the holidays? 13 weeks a year holiday- do you still get paid during the holidays? Just curious because if so, teachers are a lot better paid than it would seem.

hobnose I can only speak of my experience. One sister and her husband (he was dept head, he wangled her employment at his school) have both retired aged 56 and now share their time between their home in UK and home in South of France. Other sister is TA, husband bog standard teacher, both retired aged 55 share time between home in England and holiday home (not a caravan) in Wales. No help from parents, no inheritances etc. No wonder my nephew has gone into teaching, aged 31 he has just bought his house for £200k. Like I say, I would jump at the chance. Great holidays. But stop boring us all with tales of how much more stressful your lives are and how you deserve these long holidays. You dont. They are a massive perk of the job.

ilovesooty - No, you are not legally entitled to 5.6 weeks. You are legally entitled to 24 days, which can include bank holidays.

And seriously doing a craft session with kids for 3 hours is great fun.

He gets 23 days and the bank holidays off, 31 days off in total. Is he entitled to more then?

I know teachers who retired early, back when the pension was much better.

The same rules don't apply now. There's no chance I will be able to retire at 55.

So based entirely on your experience of two or three people you slag off an entire profession.
I assume you send your children to school every day to these dreadful people to educate your children
And I wouldn't dream of telling you that you need to get a grip and stop moaning as a carer so maybe you could extend that courtesy to teachers.

piddle - you're just being a bit rude now.

Would it be ok for me to say 'piddle, stop boring me with tales of how stressful your life is'? No, of course it wouldn't. Which is why I didn't.

www.gov.uk/holiday-entitlement-rights/entitlement

No Mrs he isn't. He gets more than the minimum by quite a way.

YY Wideopen

Lets not get ahead of ourselves here!

There are some veryoor teachers who actually get away with doing the minimal, take very few observations, know little about the children, shout constantly (reception age), use their very low paid teaching assistants for jobs way beyond what they should be doing, abuse parent helpers..never mark homework ...I could go on!

Those bad teachers still get the paid holidays.

I'm sure everyone speaking up here is a wonderful teacher but believe me I have had experience and poor teachers do exist.

wideopenspace my apologies

hobnose I returned your comments with interest. Practice what you preach my dear. Now Im off to wipe my husband's arse, enjoy your glass of vino on your balcony.

take very few observations

How do they manage that then?

I think you have me muddled with someone else
I haven't mentioned wine or a balcony
You know nothing about me or my life and I have tried not to judge yours
However you are now coming across as somewhat obnoxious and petty

And what exactly do I "preach"
Jeez get a fucking grip

Teachers are paid a salary. They have a 'directed time' annual budget which is spread over 180 teaching days plus 5 Inset days. The head can then 'direct' certain worked hours which include things outside the school day such as parents evenings and meetings. Teachers have statutory obligations and, like most professional jobs, they take as long as they take.

The salary is paid in 12 equal monthly payments.

It is a decent wage. There are lots of jobs that pay decent wages (especially in this part of the country).

Maddy68 mentioned wine and a balcony so RTFT Before you are fucking rude

Top if the pay scale for a main scale teacher us about £35000. Not many people could afford a second home on that. The pay is decent imo. However, it takes 10 years of flawless data and outstanding lesson observations to get you to the top these days. Pay is related to performance and performance is measured by whatever your school want to measure it on. There will be some new teachers who may never get to the top of the scale.

Mrs- he gets 31 days not 23 as you initially stated. Unless I'm missing something 28 days is the minimum entitlement so your DH actually has a few days more than the minimum.

P'raps they hide under the desk, Ilove?

Of course there are some bad teachers. They are the bane of my life at school. They make the work life of the decent ones much more difficult.

I don't understand your point - only teachers graded good or above allowed to be happy about holidays? Should we demand the last 3 observation gradings before a conversation about holidays begins?

ReadtheSmallPrint - Statistically most teachers are paid more than the average salary. I think that is right, but many people do responsible jobs and are paid less.

After working full time for ten years I'm now a sham and I'm looking forward to my six weeks off together with my three chidkren, sorry if that annoys you but I deserve it, I never bloody stop!