To already be fed up with teachers/eduaction workers posting about their long holiday!

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Facebook is swarming with people saying how much they deserve it and other people patting them on the back. It seems like the world and his wife are in education or SAHM's with 6 glorious weeks ahead of them. Apart from a one week holiday I have a juggling timetable of various childcare arrangements to run to and fro from.

From this thread:

"I don't think there are many jobs in which a 12-14 hour day is the norm and I would never work in one of them. If people are putting in 14 hour days 47 weeks a year that is madness."

I can't be bothered looking further back because I'm due back from my break. I don't always take it before I get flamed.

The other week there some one posted on my fb feed specifically that teachers were the only profession who worked hard.

From this thread

"I don't think there are many jobs in which a 12-14 hour day is the norm and I would never work in one of them. If people are putting in 14 hour days 47 weeks a year that is madness."

I can't be bothered looking further back because I'm due back from my break. I don't always take it before I get flamed.

That was me and you have taken what I was saying completely out of context. I started and ending that post by saying that I worked similar hours to other professionals. I have made it very clear that I didn't think teaching was the hardest job in the world.

Some teachers are rather deluded about other jobs.
However there aren't that many jobs where working a 14 hour day is normal surely?

For people that keep saying "try it before you comment", I understand where you're coming from but most of us made a decision not to go into teaching because that's not where our skill sets are and that's not what interests us professionally. It is not because we "could not cope".

There is nothing magical about teaching, there is nothing that can't be mastered without a little common sense and perseverance. I never thought I had the skills, I just wanted the chance to leave at 3:30 and have 12 weeks off. I did well and was promoted quickly. I was the person who used to moan about teachers and their 12 weeks off. So I joined them and would advise others to do the same.

Some teachers are rather deluded about other jobs.
However there aren't that many jobs where working a 14 hour day is normal surely?

Apparently everybody is working 14 hour days. If they are the world has gone mad. I only did it because I wanted my holidays free and as much of my weekend as possible.

The problem, as ever, is with Facebook.

Philoslothy you always undersell yourself on threads like this. I've seen too many people teach craply to agree that it's something that anyone can pick up with a bit of effort.

I think it takes more than a bit of effort, that is why I used the word perseverance. But sometimes when I told people that I was a teacher they would gasp as if I was performing alchemy. It is a skill you can learn by watching others. There are a few amazing teachers out there, often with huge charisma and a sense of vocation. I suspect far more are like me, just good teachers who take on board advice and have common sense.

The people you see in the classroom have already been filtered though. People qualified to apply for teacher training. People willing to apply for teacher training. People who have been accepted onto teacher training courses. People who get through teacher training. People who have stuck at teaching.

Yes there are people who haven't done teaching who could do it, but there are plenty more who couldn't. It's not just a skill you can learn by watching others. It certainly requires a basic level of intelligence that a proportion of the population don't possess. Then you need subject knowledge. That's before you get onto soft skills like a certain minimum degree of patience.

There will come a time, hopefully in my lifetime, when the six weeks of summer holidays no longer exists. Why are teachers the only profession who need weeks and weeks of annual leave every year? I just don't understand it. They never work a weekend, never work a bank holiday and are guaranteed every Christmas and Easter at home with their families. As a nurse, it is sickening.

Oh do fuck off.

But aren't the holidays also for the kids?

Why shouldn't they have 6(or whatver) weeks in what should be nice weather to get out & play with friends?

To elaborate: anyone who thinks that schools are closed regularly for holidays because the teachers need all that time off are total idiots.

And as a nurse you chose that particular career in the knowledge that 6 weeks summer holiday would never be part of the deal. Why do some people sound as though they've been swindled in some way?

why are teachers the only profession who need weeks and weeks of annual leave every year? I just don't understand it

Did you not enjoy/need/look forward to the holidays when you were a child? Should children now and forevermore go without them because you're pissed off and jealous about it??

Long school holidays historically exist, because most children used to work farming during the school holidays, and their help was needed. My DP did this. I got to enjoy long summer holidays of playing though.

windchime lots of teachers DO do work on the weekends.

Before you ask I'm not a teacher.

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Exactly.

On the whole I think teachers do an amazing job, it isn't their fault they get long holidays.
That's like complaining a sahp has more time with their kids.
Yes, it's called choice and chosen profession.

They never work a weekend
Every teacher I know works weekends.
No one forced you to be a nurse.
Do you want children in school over Christmas, Easter and over the summer?

And it's not the teachers who need the holidays so much as the children. If you could see my class yesterday you would see how much they needed a break.

windchime - here we go again. Par for the course really.

I can't think of any profession which is subject to the criticism teaching is and where there is so much need for people to defend themselves. Also nowadays the micromanagement and being treated like naughty children is dispiriting.

I taught for 23 years. I give thanks every day that I left when I did for a job which might be less well paid, where the holidays are shorter but I am valued and treated with respect.

Windchime what utter shit. I have another week to go yet and then I am doing....
A week of summer school for PP kids.
Data and exam results (gcse and a level)
Marking and planning for the next term as I currently have two hours a week to do that and teach 230 hours of lessons. I need a diferentiated lesson plan for each lesson allowing for sn, eal and extension. I have staff briefing everyday, tutor time, reports, seperate reports for LAC, special needs and anyone else whose parents would like one. I have to provide work for any students in either of the units- I could go on.
After school I have directed time, meetings with parents, working parties and meetings about curriculum.
You had six weeks off as a child so it's no great shock. We have christmas, Easter etc as children are expected to be at home then. Why be a nurse and have children if you miss those important times?
The attitude of some on here is appalling. Ellie and her 'anyone can do it' and windchime and 'all the time they get off'. I work hard, not harder than others but hard in a very stressful environment. I have lovely classes and two not so lovely. I can't tell you how difficult it is with them and facing personal abusive behaviour regularly. The challenges to everything you say. Roll on next Friday.....

wanna exactly. My colleagues and managers treat me with more respect than I ever got in teaching and unlike the disrespect and challenging behaviour in many schools I'm treated with respect by the offenders and substance misusers I work with.