To already be fed up with teachers/eduaction workers posting about their long holiday!

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Facebook is swarming with people saying how much they deserve it and other people patting them on the back. It seems like the world and his wife are in education or SAHM's with 6 glorious weeks ahead of them. Apart from a one week holiday I have a juggling timetable of various childcare arrangements to run to and fro from.

Eno one finishes at 3.30. That part of the job end. Then there is directed time which is used to attend meetings aboutthe many things that need to be addressed. But if you beleive that like I say come and join us.

The education system is undergoing a massive change yet again and in order for you teachers to be able to deliver and understand the content of the new curriculum and legislation there is a huge amount of work to do, planning and marking. Marking and book scrutiny is becoming increasingly importants so teachers are likely now to be using diagnostic marking methods. End of year reports. Targets for those who need writing up safeguarding. So if a child comes in and an issue is noted that may be safeguarding. It's noted. Maintaining the learning environment curriculum leadership activity for those wit responsibility.

The children and young people leaving the building marks the end of one phase of the day not the end of the working day. Come there are loads of you on here I would love to see in teaching.

giggly I explained the unpaid leave earlier. Though I did make a mistake!

I get paid: hourly pay x contracted hours x 43 (39 weeks worked plus 4 weeks paid holiday allowance)
Then that is divided by 12 to give my monthly wage.

I agree with Ellie that most parents can do as good as or a better job homeschooling their children. The skill of teaching is really dealing with SN, diverse abilities and parents.

Teaching is a tough job. I suspect it's easier than some of the more demanding NHS roles, but if a seven-week holiday is so desirable then where is the huge surplus of teachers?

We still have a whole week to go in Kent! Has everyone else broken up?

Schools seem to have broken up yesterday in London.

Been off a fortnight already here.

YANBU the way Facebook has it at the moment you'd think teachers had spent a year down the pits, never seeing the light of day...

Rather than in school 6 weeks since the last half term...

I don't think most teachers have anything to compare it to, and when you're surrounded by this sort of attitude it's easy to lose perspective.

so you all work most evenings until 11pm, every weekend and at least 2 weeks of the holidays. I am sorry but I just don't believe that is the case

Do you think every teacher is making it up?

The reason that some teacher 'go on' about how hard they work etc is because there are still people who think that you knock off at 3.30, there are some people who think that the whereabouts of their child's jumper is the most important thing you have to think about and have nothing better to do than get shitty about a grammatical error on a spelling list or letter that you wrote at 11pm.

Next you will tell me you can only go to the toilet twice a day in a pre agreed time slot.

Yes, break time and lunch time. When you are often stuck in a meeting.

I don't moan but my teaching friends doing 0800 to 1530 are tired

Find me a teacher who finishes work at 3.30? I'm rarely out of the building before 6 and then do another hour or two at home. I have a fairly light work load.

I think parents could (and many do) a fantastic job educating their own children. Educating 30+ children, with diverse needs, is not comparable to that.

I think the point Pipbin is that there are an awful lot of jobs where you work a 12 hour shift, but in which you don't get 13 weeks holiday a year to recover.

Dh teaches, for less money than me. I work 9-5, never do any overtime or wfh. He is out the house from 8-6, same as me. He then works 7-10/11 & is still always behind with work.

He can have the holidays, I'll have my evenings.

I get you OP!

On my Fb, every teacher I know shared this back in June:

"It's not even summer and already you're tired of explaining to the 9-5 types that you actually put in a full year about 2 months ago, so maybe they should just shut up about teachers having the "summer off""

This is exactly why people are offended. The superiority to "9-5 types". The implied "no profession works harder than me" attitude. Fuck off.

You work. I get it. So do I, as it happens.

But please, stop whinging about your hours or I'll suggest you all come and be farmers, where you can start at 4am, finish at 11 and never have a day off, not even when it snows.

My experience of teaching is that it can be little more than slave labour.

It is considered "torture" for a prisoner to be deprived sleep, but can be completely normal for a teacher to be given so much work that you have to go consecutive nights without sleeping.

No totally, that isn't normal.

Teaching is undoubtedly a hard job, and I do believe that most teachers do more hours (probably a lot more hours) than just the 9-3:30 they spend physically 'teaching'. I also don't begrudge them the long holidays-as others have said-it's part of the job, and presumably one of the reasons why people chose to go into the profession. However, I do agree with the OP that it is wearying when you talk to teachers who seem to think that they have it harder than the majority of other professions.
I have had conversations with friends who are teachers where they point out the amount of overtime that they do, and that therefore their hours are longer than 9-5. Fair enough...but as others have said most other professional people also work unpaid overtime over and above the 9-5, which is something that is rarely acknowledged in that argument. Just like teachers I don't just do my 'set' hours of 9-5-I'm often preparing through the night, leaving home early to go to different locations, etc. I don't believe that teaching is so much worse or pressurised than other professions...as others have said, try working in nursing, law enforcement, etc-just as pressurised.

Can't we all just...hate politicians instead?

Loads more money, vote their own payrises, long holidays, pompous, patronising liars?

If that's what they said it would be ok so very, but see my post above for what they actually do say!

...because people are bery bitter about having to now find childcare for their children. Maybe resentful about having to take their holiday entitlement in the school holidays?

I am not a teacher any more because I would rather not have to work. I have never ever claimed to work longer hours than anybody else because it would probably be bollocks. I don't know anybody else who did either.

sorry had to log off as been catching up on work at home this evening. Ok so you all work most evenings until 11pm, every weekend and at least 2 weeks of the holidays. I am sorry but I just don't believe that is the case and I think this is what really riles people.

I never worked into holidays but most days I was in school for 11 hours and would then do a few more hours at home. I also worked a good few hours over the weekend. However I would never claim to work harder than anybody else, I just compressed by hours because it suited me.

Because some teachers do expressly say that they work harder than everyone else in the country and are therefore more deserving of time off! If they say that, they should be called on it imo.

Of course teachers work hard and the holiday is clearly one of the real perks of the job. They don't need to argue that they are more deserving than anyone else to that holiday!

I do think I deserved my time off because I suspect that my working hours during term time were equal to most other professional jobs. I have worked in other areas and my average week was not 75/80 hours plus. I deserved the holidays precisely because I should not have to work harder than anybody else.

I am a teacher.

I couldn't tell you what the most difficult job in the world is, and I wouldn't be interested in doing it anyway- I chose this job, and I quite like it, holidays and all.

Anyone who fancies a go is more than welcome to- the profession is always in need of highly skilled, creative and committed people, and you would no doubt be a boon.