To love Jeremy Corbyn and hope he wins

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I'm not a Labour/Tory supporter but this man actually has principles.

I love him too!

YANBU - and I'm no fan of the Labour party. Mind you, if he becomes leader that might change.

radicalrooster the violent imagery in your post makes me deeply uncomfortable.

he's a disgusting antisemite in beige

antisemite? really? is that because he view Palestinians as human beings? He also views Israelis as human beings - if that changes your opinion at all?

it's the company he keeps

yuck

Well, I can't speak for him, but I can say that the situation in Israel is an illegal occupation and I don't think believing that people in occupied territories have the right to defend themselves with force against violent force makes anyone an antisemite.

If you were writing a clever radio play about politics with a part for satan in it, his tone would have been captured perfectly by radical rooster up thread. I wonder if he/she realises how creepily ammoral they sound. Yeuch.

rooster

I was more embarrassed for the '4th rate Paxman'- he made himself look like a Student Journalist in his last year of training. Ridiculous performance.

JC looked bemused by his performance

Radicalrooster What a lot of posturing and nonsense. And such a delightful image: Osborne's got his boot on your throat already

I try to be charitable towards Tory voters, believing they are misguided, but when I read something like that, I find myself remembering Nye Bevan's much quoted opinion on the Tory party...

At least s/he acknowledges that it was a 'nasty budget'.

'Creepily amoral' is Harriet Harman promoting the interests of the Paedophile Information Exchange. Not figuring out how to defeat a political opponent.

But hey, I'll take being Satanic if it means Corbyn gets elected as Labour Leader. And please don't let my creepy amorality stop you from following your heartfelt political convictions. After all, you should never interrupt an enemy while they're making a mistake.

UselessLizzy, how could it be anything other than 'nasty' if it came from the Tories? I'm just joining in the spirit of things.

As for my nonsense and useless posturing, I couldn't really give a fuck either way. All I know is we're in power, and Labour aren't getting back in for a long, long time. Get used to it.

Oh dear, Radical, now you sound like a sixth form politics student.

Woe is me

rooster You can't read either.

And please don't let my creepy amorality stop you from following your heartfelt political convictions.

Interesting. Do you have any deeply held convictions yourself, I wonder? Beyond wanting to see boots on throats, obviously.

now you sound like a sixth form politics student. Well, quite.

Bevan was right about them.

Really depressing that there are people expressing the sentiments of rooster about breathing the same air as civilised society.

rooster nice tyo know you and all the other tory voters care so much when disabled and their carers who are being shunted out of society at every breathe these fuckers take.

they give themselves a pay rise and take from the vulnerable.

yes, absolutely, get shot of benefit cheats and workshy etc but nit the the genuine clamiants.

every other party AFAIK said if they won the election theyd take off the bedroom tax (at least for the disabled) and do more to help the truly vulnerable.

I hope Labour still think this.

This makes interesting reading and supports what I was saying earlier in the thread: former Labour voters voted Conservative this time because they didn't trust Labour on the economy. Jeremy Corbyn sure as hell won't get them back.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jul/18/labour-party-voters-desertion-election

UselessLizzy, I can read fine thanks.

Sooty, not only breathing but thriving.

Part of me just likes winding up lefties. But most of me is deadly serious about the opportunity to destroy Labour as a credible political force, to render it irrelevant by claiming its palatable political ground, and to discredit socialism as a legitimate and desirable form of Government for the future. Corbyn is a heaven sent opportunity to aid these objectives.

Let's face it, if most of you lot had the same opportunity to inflict this amount of damage on the Tories, you wouldn't hesitate.

Actually Rooster, I think many of us wouldn't stoop quite so low.
You haven't stated why you believe socialism is undesirable.

"Let's face it, if most of you lot had the same opportunity to inflict this amount of damage on the Tories, you wouldn't hesitate."

What nonsense. A one-party state is good for no one. A healthy democracy offers alternatives across the political spectrum and a robust opposition - although I guess for someone like you that would mean the Conservatives, UKIP, the BNP and - I don't know, some as yet unformed party for swivel-eyed Libertarian loons?

It is vital to have a strong opposition. Anyone who wants to annihilate any opposition is an idiot. This is why I think the situation in Scotland is so unhealthy at the moment.

You are right about Corbyn though, RadicalRooster.