To love Jeremy Corbyn and hope he wins

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I'm not a Labour/Tory supporter but this man actually has principles.

Anyone that Labour elect will be slaughtered by those bastards in the right wing press. I personally like him, but we badly need a Labour government. I'd vote for anyone that has a chance of stopping the Tories from dismantling everything that is good about this country, just so their mates can profit.

If anyone thinks the Tories are occupying the centre ground they're deluded.

He will NEVER win an election - reminds me of Michael Foot.

Too old, to scruffy and too bearded as well as too left wing. Image all wrong.

Jeremy Corbyn is fabulous. He has principles, he could bring the party back to representing the actual left wing, not just a watered down Tory "ethic"

I'll be voting for him. Change needs to happen. Labout are getting nowhere fast by limping along in the Tory shadow. Left wing parties - the SNP, the Greens -are gaining momentum, people are going to lose faith in the Tories very fast as there despicalble austerity measures hit ordinary people harder and harder. People will look for an alternative and a Labour party getting abck to it's Socialist roots can provide it.

Ed Miliband is also an extremely intelligent and principled man. That worked out well, didn't it?
In many ways more of the 'Foot' effect. However, Foot, unlike Ed was an excellent communicator. The problem though, again, was the right wing press and image. However, I suspect it is the demise of Ed's political career and his vilification by the press that will be the driving force behind Corbyn's success.

People who lose faith in the Tories won't vote for Labour if they are (or their image is) too far to the left. They need to be more centrist to attract those votes.

I'll vote for him, but I think Burnham will win.?

I have not felt the connection with labour since Neil Kinnock, I no longer have a party that I believe represents me the most, maybe the best scenario is powerful opposition while labour decide what their party stands for and stop chasing the central vote by pushing leaders who are as Tory minded as the Tories.

Yanbu. I am voting JC. Sick of the Blairites dragging us to the right. #jezwecan

I am a Corbyn supporter. And I totally agree with Dawndonna re. John Smith (and most other things)

If politics means anything at all, people surely have to have some principle and vote for those whose policies they believe in, rather than someone they believe to be electable. I don't want Tory-lite, I want a party that will actually be an opposition and speak up for those who need help.

You can call me naive as often as you like, but Corbyn reflects my beliefs and so I'm voting for him - it's really that simple. Why on earth would I vote for someone that I don't agree with?

but Corbyn reflects my beliefs and so I'm voting for him - it's really that simple. Why on earth would I vote for someone that I don't agree with?

I agree Lizzy and Dawn's post are spot on too - I looked at his voting record in the HoC and I agree with all his votes - He speaks to me! Ed didn't

Heard nothing about council homes, nothing about looking out for the vulnerable and sick, Red Ed? I didn't hear it!! More like pale blue Ed!

I really, really him. For all the reasons already described by others on here.

Corbyn would be a massive lurch backwards for Labour, to a buried past of unelectable and unpopular socialism. But don't let that stop you all from voting another unelectable man in
I disagree. I do think that there are many who mourn the demise of John Smith. Corbyn is an old socialist of similar standing. In amongst all the naval gazing regarding their loss of the election, I (and many others) think that Labour have lost their way. They are convinced that they didn't win the election because the tories were tough on immigration and benefits. There are many who are equally convinced that this is not the case and that Labour have turned their backs on the people that need socialism. The people that truly suffered under the coalition and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future are looking for an alternative. The Labour party are so busy looking at what everybody else did, how they perfomred in comparison that they are unable to see the most basic truths, they are no longer socialists. They do not care for the poor, the sick, the disabled, not even the workers. They no longer appear to believe that one is in politics to do the right thing, but as a career choice. The reasons they didn't get elected are not because they weren't tough enough but because they weren't caring enough. Because they dind't stand up for th erights of workers (apart from a brief nod to zero hours contracts). They didn't say 'hang on a minute, not everyone on jsa is a scrounger, they didn't say workers rights protect us all. They didn't say the Tory rhetoric is damaging lives. At no point did they counter the damaging lies told by the tories, the isnidious little narrative of shirker versus worker. The Greens split their vote and instead of providing a different, less dangerous narrative, a narrative that said we care for people when they hit hard times, we protect those who need it most, no, they chose the Tory 'lite' line. Many voters who trusted in socialism found in no longer existed in the Labour Party.
This is why Corbyn may well lead the Labour Pary to power. So those silly Tories who are voting for him in the misguided sense that they are destroying the party, may well be doing some of us a favour

Yes. This ^^

But he can't do any of those wonderful principled things in opposition. There's no way Labour can win a general election with him as leader.

Why? Amethyst?

Amethyst I don't actually believe that to be true; but, even if it was, I am tired of being represented by 'Labour' politicians who might as well be Tories.

There are a lot of grass roots Labour supporters who feel let down by the PLP. I'm one of them.

His age, for one thing. Will people seriously elect a man who'll be 75 when PM? There's just not the appetite in the wider electorate for him and his politics. He would make the Labour party as irrelevant as the Lib Dems are now.

I think he's brilliant.

If Corbyn were elected, we'd see another leadership election in 2018/19 as the party realised there was no hope of winning the next election, and in the ensuing shambles we'd lose it anyway.

Look at the Labour leaders that have won elections since the war. Only one of them - Atllee - could be described as truly left wing. The other two (Wilson, Blair) were much more centrist. Attlee's election was unique in that it occurred straight after the war and that influenced the electorate's decision. Since then the Labour party hasn't been elected with a really left wing manifesto, and I don't think that will change in the next five years. Hence I don't think Jeremy Corbyn will win a General Election.
I completely agree that you should vote for the candidate who represents your views the best, but in Corbyn's case he is unelectable (in my opinion)!

I would vote Labour if he was the lead, and I didn't in this election (last did so in 2010.)

BTW I think Attlee was amazing, best Prime Minister of the 20th Century.

It would seem amethyst, that there is an appetite for his politics Mr Umana on news night yesterday came across as a young Tory. People are losing their taste for arrogant young upstarts, they're looking for principled honesty and experience, something Corbyn appears to provide.

It honestly amazes me that people think, after the complete trainwreck of the last election, that the electorate wants to see a move to the left. People didn't trust Labour under Ed Miliband on the economy, which is why he lost. Why on earth would they trust Corbyn?