to think people try to be too healthy

[rwonknextdoor]

Sometimes I find it hard to buy proper crisps these days, so often there are baked crisps. To me these just taste too sweet as all they have done is replaced the fat with sugar and fat is probably healthier in the first place.

Read a thread where people were saying pizza once a month was fine. In my house we have pizza night, chips night and burgers night once a week. This means that out of 21 meals 18 are healthy. I think its important to feed real food otherwise once they grow up and move out they will probably binge on junk if they were not given any growing up. Ive seen this happen to a few people raised on a strict diet.

Real food = junk food

okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

90% healthy food with exercise is fine.
I don't think protein shakes are healthy - just eat a chicken breast or something.
I'd rather eat food than blend it.

Sorry I was meaning real world food

how can you be 'too healthy'?
Is there a point where good health becomes pathological?
Surely that's a logical impossibility? ?

Is this a reverse or something? You're not seriously arguing for people to feed their children more chips, burgers and pizzas?

Not that there's anything wrong with the occasional burger or whatever and I agree that demonising particular foods is a bad idea but to deliberately aim for more food like that rather than healthy home cooked meals? Madness.

Despite losing a lot of weight I still feel a lot is down to genetics. I am predisposed to put on weight easily. So I have to work hard to fight that.

I can only have a takeaway once a month or go out for dinner and if I do I them watch very carefully what I eat and increase my exercise. I already exercise 5 times a week, swimming, gym, running. Whereas my best friend is tiny. She never diets and lives on pizza, chinese and Indian takeaways and easily eats more than me. She swims once a week and does a spin class once a week but never gains weight. We've known each other for over 20 years so I know she's telling the truth. I've seen her empty fridge and cupboards and the takeaway packaging in recycling.

I do think some people obsess over weight and calories though. In the same way other obsess over not counting Calories and say dieting is evil.

I do worry about obesity levels. I was obese, over 20 stone a size 24+ and never walked anywhere. I'm
Now a 12/14 and about 12.5 stone. Still overweight to many people. I try and strike a level that's not obsessive as I have a 9yr old daughter and don't want to make her paranoid about weight but at the same time I can see she has the tendency to gain weight quickly. As does ds2 who is 13. Whereas ds1 18 is slim and never gains weight. Rarely exercises these days whereas ds2 and dd have sporting activities at least 4 times a week and ds2 lives for rugby and goes to the gym most nights.

I find it very hard to believe you struggle to find 'normal' crisps. The vast majority of crisps on sale in supermarkets, petrol stations and news agents are of the Walkers/kettle chips variety. There are very few baked crisps on sale compared to the amount of fried ones.

What do you mean by 'real' food? Junk food?

I'm not sure if this is really what you mean, but it sounds as though you think people should offer more burgers, chips and pizza in place of home cooked foods. If this is what you mean then I think yabu unless they are home cooked and healthy versions of this food.

all crisps are bad
eat boiled potatoes instead

Crisps are party food. It's not like you need to buy regularly so wouldn't worry about it, or just don't eat if you don't like

Fast food isn't a feature in our house. Don't see it as necessary. Kids can choose to eat pizza etc at parties if they want, but they don't binge. We have sweets in house from Halloween. They eat one or two haribo, then leave opened packets so they dry out and get binned

"Real" food in our family means animal protein (meat/fish/eggs/dairy), vegetables, pulses and fruit, all prepared in a way close to their recognisable natural state (ie you can quickly identify the ingredients in most dishes, unless they have undergone very slow cooking or been emulsified). Industrially processed food does not pass the "real" food filter most of the time.

No 3/4 of adults in the UK are overweight or obese. The generation born in the 80's has a lower life expectancy than their parents YABU

I agree with Bonsoir

I'd say 80% of the food aisles in the supermarket is processed crap. Full of sugar

And we wonder why we are having an obesity crisis

Your post is definitely not clear, OP. Do you have one night a week for pizza, one for chips and one for burgers? And when you refer to real world food, do you mean this stuff?

Homemade hamburgers made from mince etc. are perfectly healthy, IMHO, but McDonalds is poison. My dd was one of a small minority in her class who weren't taken to McDonald's and that same minority are the ones who didn't grow up to be hugely obese.

'Real food' that is easy, child friendly and delicious:

Baked potatoes
Roast chicken
Home made chicken nuggets
Home made cod nuggets
Homemade pizza
Sausages and mash
Fish fingers with baby boiled potatoes
Homemade Lasagne
Spaghetti bolognaise
Home made burgers / meatballs
Pasta in hidden vegetable sauce

All the above served up with vegetables.

Not that difficult really?!

Industrially manufactured food is specifically designed to foster addiction / compulsion and food cravings
the manufacturers have been very Successful, but then preying on human weakness isn't rocket science

Has my main point gone over everyones head?

I said try. I'm talking about people trying too hard and it leading to failure.

Homemade pizza and homemade burgers feature regularly on the menu in my house, both accompanied by lots of salad.

Personally I think the best that you van do is give your kids a taste for really good food. DS went off to Uni, tried buying a few cheap ready meals and pizza and quickly came to the conclusion that it tastes like crap. His cheap quick fix is an egg on toast. He eats fruit and veg because it's what he's used to.

He went to Disneyland Paris on a sixth form school trip, ate crap for three days and in the car when I was driving him home he was saying, "God I'm really craving some salad".

Eat crap, die earlier (just discovered the importance of comma placement in that statement )... study after study has proven this to be true.

I'll eat healthily thanks. Why would I choose to binge on junk? Actively choosing to die earlier? I don't smoke or drink alcohol either, life and soul of the party me....

Better to try and fail than not to try. What's your solution OP, I am NHS England would love to know the answer.

I'm talking about people trying too hard and it leading to failure.

In my experience people who try hard tend to succeed.

Is your solution not to try at all?

My dd was one of a small minority in her class who weren't taken to McDonald's and that same minority are the ones who didn't grow up to be hugely obese.

So Atenco the majority grew up to be hugely obese?!