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To think fridges do not come with house sells?

73 replies

Luckyluc · 10/07/2015 17:22

My mum died a few months back in March. We only recently put the house on the market to be sold, we left a lot of her stuff in there to make it feel homely.
My mum has a two year old kitchen. Built in washer, built in microwave and cooker.
The fridge however my mum brought.
Soneone has brought the house now and the estate agent said they want the fridge and it's included in the price.
I don't think this is fair, I was meant to take the fridge how can they even expect a fridge to be included?
Is this normal practice?
I've never own/sold a house before so I do not know.

People in family saying I can just but the same one, that isn't the point it was my mums and it isn't an adnormal space where the fridge is any fridge can go there.

My mum also brought a wine cooler which they want and there is coy fish in the pond about 50 of them they want.

Aibu here?
Can you provide your experiences on house sells ect please

OP posts:
BitchPeas · 10/07/2015 17:23

Just tell them no! And don't budge. Get your solicitor or estate agent or whatever to deal with the grabby bastards if it's stressing you out Smile

BitchPeas · 10/07/2015 17:24

And Sorry for your loss Flowers

Fooshufflewickbannanapants · 10/07/2015 17:24

Just because they want them doesn't mean they can have them! Cheeky buggers

Mintyy · 10/07/2015 17:25

How is the kitchen described on the webiste or brochure? If the fridge is not mentioned, you do not have to include it.

If they want the wine cooler and the coy fish then they can make an offer for them and you can accept or not!

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 10/07/2015 17:25

Normally all that kind of thing is agreed when the purchase price is agreed. Is the fridge specified on the sales details or description, or in a sales memorandum?

NotYouNaanBread · 10/07/2015 17:26

In my limited experience, the white goods are NOT included in the sale price unless specified. The estate agent would usually use this in the negotiations.

If you never specified that the fridge was included, then it was not included. You can hardly strip the house bare during the viewings process so that people don't get "confused" about what's included and what's not. Unless it's in writing that it was included, you're fine. Write a one line email to the estate agent stating that these items were never included in the sale and you will not be returning them.

On a second reading though, are you trying to retrieve items from the house after the exchange of contracts? Because I'm not sure you're going to get anywhere with that, I'm afraid.

GoofyIsACow · 10/07/2015 17:26

Did you fill in an inventory? You know the form where they ask about every single thing in the whole house, included or not?
Did you tick not included for the fridge?

You definitely need to just say no and stick to your guns. They won't pull out because of a fridge.

CuthbertDibble · 10/07/2015 17:26

They're just asking, you don't have to say yes, but you might want to think about the logistics of moving those things. You could also come back with a 'no problem, but we want an extra £500/1,000'.

It's a negotiation, doubtful that you'd lose the sale over a fridge, but sometimes it's not worth the hassle of removing it.

bakingdiva · 10/07/2015 17:26

If the fridge is built in, then it is normal to include it, but if it isn't then you either take it with you, or negotiate extra for it....same with any other furniture in the house / garden.

WhetherOrNot · 10/07/2015 17:27

When you go to a decent Estate Agents they ALWAYS list what comes with the house and what doesn't in the description.

Unless you want the hassle of finding new buyers for them, I would include the coy carp. The rest they can jump for.

Blame the Estate Agents for not doing the description properly.

DrElizabethPlimpton · 10/07/2015 17:27

They are trying it on because it is a probate sale!

Twiceover · 10/07/2015 17:27

Sorry to hear about your mum.

Usual practice is to have a fixtures and fittings list where you tick the things that are included or not included. If the fridge is free standing I wouldn't have thought it would be included. Cheeky people.

SunnySomer · 10/07/2015 17:28

There should have been a list of contents drawn up and whoever was selling the house (you?) shoukd have had the opportunity to list what is and is not included in the sale, eg carpets, curtains, light fittings? Any free-standing white goods. Did this not happen?
If someone did this on your behalf and included those items then tgey shoukd be included - otherwise stand your ground.

MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 10/07/2015 17:28

That's what the fixtures and fittings list is for. Just say no if you don't want to sell and if you do then tell them how much.

If you're in England and Wales nothing is binding until you exchange contracts.

Sorry about your mum.

GoofyIsACow · 10/07/2015 17:29

When I sold my first house there was a bidding war from two parties, one of them said 'ok I will pay £xxx as long as you take it off the market and include the bedroom chandlier'

I agreed (the 'chandelier' cost me £10 from Matalan, it was a shade) Grin

Sabaidee · 10/07/2015 17:31

In my experience, fixtures and fittings are included in a sale by default, but everything else is assumed to belong to the seller - unless specific negotiations have taken place.

A handy way of thinking about it is to imagine you can turn the house upside down, like a doll's house. Anything that falls out - is yours (seller's) anything that stays put (e.g. light fittings, doors, fitted cupboards etc) belongs to the buyer.

Does that make any sense??

Orangeisthenewbanana · 10/07/2015 17:31

There's normally a fixtures and fittings form you have to fill in, where you state what will be included in the sale at the asking price (light fittings, curtains, appliances etc). Not sure if that's through the solicitors or Ea? It's entirely up to you what you choose to put on the form, the buyers can't demand anything, only offer to/agree to pay extra for anything they would especially like to keep. You do have to then stick to the form when you move out, so make a copy and keep it in a safe place.

MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 10/07/2015 17:33

It's something the solicitor deals with. The fixtures and fittings list that is.

landrover · 10/07/2015 17:34

At the end of the day, maybe all this things are worth a grand, you could lose your house sale and wait god knows how many months for another buyer, its not worth the hassle, just get rid xxx

Original poster
Luckyluc · 10/07/2015 17:34

My aunt was the one who was dealing with the estate agent so I will have to ask her but she did no from before we put the house on the market i said I'm keeping the fridge.

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landrover · 10/07/2015 17:35

What would u do with the coy carp and fridge anyway?

hiccupgirl · 10/07/2015 17:36

If it's not built in then it's normally not included but you can tell them they can have it for an extra £x amount. Same with the fish, any pot plants etc. You don't have to agree to everything they want included and if there are fixed things you don't want to include then you can say they are excluded from the sale in the fixtures and fittings list.

landrover · 10/07/2015 17:36

Is it a very special fridge?

AliceAlice1979 · 10/07/2015 17:37

Have you exchanged interacts? or done a fixtures a and fittings list. Built in goods are normally included free standing goods (and pets) are not. If they want to buy your fish/ furniture they can offer up to you to decide if you want to sell or not.

AliceAlice1979 · 10/07/2015 17:37

*Exchanged contracts.

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