i am loathing the gradual creep of the term 'gotten' on here

[FrankietheSquealer]

Please desist

What about the term "ill gotten gains"?

I agree it's not a common word ( even as a Scot living in Scotland I never hear it) but it is a "proper" word.

Couldn't give a toss

People think "gotten" has an American connotation but it's actually old English in origin ;-

grammarist.com/usage/got-gotten/

I saw "gotten" in Stylist magazine this week. Grrrr. Yes it's old UK English, but so is a lot of US English. Doesn't mean we want it back!

I've said this before on here but hate the new fashion for saying "excited for" instead of "excited about" or "looking forward to".

footle

good job I'm a forriner!

Gotten has never been out of use in Ireland. Nothing to do with the US so if you must whinge about other people's perfectly correct language use please find something that really is wrong.

This comes back to a basic question I always have on these thread - what is so terrible about 'americanisms' anyway? Could it be pure snootiness on the part of some UK types?

I've said this before on here but hate the new fashion for saying "excited for" instead of "excited about" or "looking forward to".

That's an odd one! I don't really hate it, but I wonder where it came from.

This comes back to a basic question I always have on these thread - what is so terrible about 'americanisms' anyway? Could it be pure snootiness on the part of some UK types?

Well, I'm from the north, so if you want to perpetuate the snooty southern English myth, then go on, but you will be wrong. To many English speakers, it sounds wrong. It sounds muddled, not grammatically correct, as the examples upthread show. It doesn't correctly delineate between different tenses and possessive pronouns. Its not an improvement, it doesn't aid understanding. It seems more like a bad habit of speech that has become entrenched.

Seeing this thread title has finally gotten to me so I'm going to hide it now.

At least gotten isn't hideous and patronising twee like "well done you"

There is nothing worse than "should of". NOTHING. .

I have noticed a far more frequent use of "of". As in "outside of the city" as opposed to "outside the city". Heard it on the news the other day for instance, and yet ti wasn't something I ever heard growing up. Oh and when did either, (eye-ther) become EEther? I assumed it was a regional variation, here in wales we used to use eye-ther, but now everyone seems to have shifted to EEther.

you know what I am really hating?
The use of the continuous tense with state verbs.
In comparison to that using the archaic 'gotten' is just fine.

I blame McDonalds for 'I am loving it'

"Did you know that the American Southern accent is believed by many academics to be closest to what Shakespearean English sounded like?"

Noooo! Black Country dialect is the closest to Shakespearian English

yow wot?

Ar! Luk it up!

yow tow can speek blakcuntray babs!

yow tow can speek blakcuntray babs! I'm loving it!

I agree with Sunny that "I'm loving it", etc is the far greater of the two evils. It sounds like a column in Heat magazine: "I'm loving my new self-tanner".

Out of curiosity, how would the anti-gotten crowd say: "It's gotten out of control"? I realise you could equally say, "It's spiralled out of control" or similar, but that's more formal.

What about the term "ill gotten gains"?

Isn't the correct term "ill-begotten gains"?

"It's got out of control." Nothing wrong with that.

nothing wrong with it per se but 'it's gotten out of control' sounds much better, more natural.

forget - forgot - forgotten
get - got - gotten

makes perfect sense to me.

'Gotten out of control' sounds odd to me.

I haven't gotten you started footle

sorry folks, inner imp wants to play