To think that mother & baby spaces are for people with babies & small children?!

[cranberryx]

Parked up at asda before work and low and behold what do I see?

3 vans, an elderly gentleman and a young couple all park up and get out of their vehicles and stroll into asda. Not one car seat, not one small child in sight!

I know it wasn't a busy time (8am) but still, I would be so peed off if I parked up with my little one and couldn't find a space with space to get a car seat out of etc!

Next time I might have a word! Or am I just being a grump!

Wider spaces are nicer for everyone. I park in them sometimes even though my DS is 8. I don't care :)

YANBU.
For group 0 car seats you need to open the door fully to remove baby in seat. I once couldn't find a P&C space and ended up taking out seat whilst out of space, leaving DS in car park and at risk of being hit while I drove into space. So dangerous but I had somewhere I needed to be and couldn't see an alternative.
Also dragging 3 under 5s across a car park is dangerous and so the spaces need to be closer.
Parking in there with older children or for any other reason is selfish.

Actually I'm just being a goady fucker. DS is disabled so that's why I park in P&C spaces - because he's got less sense than your average 3 yo but can cover more ground

ican't because it shouldn't even be something that comes in the same sentence as what you 'mind' as though you are granting some type of boon.
mewkins perhaps you could go and find some young mums from deprived backgrounds to give you some parenting tips, they generally manage to get all the way to the supermarket, let alone across the car park without losing their kids

arking in there with older children or for any other reason is selfish

Have you bothered to read the thread?

*Today 17:37 FanjoForTheMammaries

wagglebee do you know what a GF is too?*

Huh? The only GF I know is 'gluten free' or 'get fucked' and I don't think it's gluten free and I haven't done anything wrong so can't be the second.

Is M&P something bad?

Fanjo 'Goady fucker'?? Do you mean me for asking what another poster meant by M&P?

Lurkedforever the fact the argument is about p&c spaces and people are stating that they would use them if they needed to for either a disabled relative or an oap is the reason I said I wouldn't have a problem with that. I wouldn't even give it a second thought! It's blatantly obvious that people may need to use them. It's the fact people have such an issue that they even exist and are so against people using them for the purpose they were put there for.
I really don't understand people getting their backs up for absolutely no reason and for something that shouldn't even bother them?!

So confused.

Mother and parent space? Moaner and pedantic space? Someone enlighten me

I disagree with people who feel the close proximity of the P&C spaces to the store is not relevant.

Small children are vulnerable. They can't be seen behind reversing cars. They are liable to dashing off. They have no car or road awareness. Parents may be struggling with two or more small children in a busy car park. It very much does make a difference that the children only have to go a short distance from car to store as it is undeniably SAFER.

I'll take the PC spaces being in close proximity to a store, or next to a designated pedestrial walkway with a zebra crossing at the end (as in the larger stores) thanks very much. I'm not being precious. However my children are very precious and gladly will I accept anything that keeps them safer.

It's not the P&C spaces that make some MNers so incenced, it's the comments about disability that always seem to pop up. Complete and utter fuckwits suggest that because people walk, they mustn't be disabled.

(I am a blue badge holder and a parent, so no skin off my nose. I can park anywhere. )

So how do parents cope in the rest of the big bad world oh? How do the parents who rely on public transport cope?

Yes sometimes it's a juggling act but it is more than possible to cope.

Ohmittens you are totally right. However you'll soon get the 'we managed in our day' people along soon so apparently nothing should ever change. I don't care tho, I'll still park in them when I can but wouldn't be bothered if I can't. Not the end of the world.

Sirzy What is your perception of the problem for people who rely on public transport? If there's a problem, and a solution, I would support that too. In the same way and for the same reason as I support P&C spaces close to the store.

Well how do you think people get from bus stops to shops? Do you not think they manage to walk through car parks? And along roads?

itsmine who says people manage fine everywhere else? Children are vulnerable. Anything that minimises that vulnerabity is good in my book.

Sometimes I think that it gets overlooked that children are vulnerable. What parent does not welcome a measure that keeps their child safer?? Don't get it.

Can anyone enlighten me, why asking what M&P stands for, is wrong as I think I've been called a goady fucker?

Another poster used those initials I don't know what they mean so that's literally all I asked.

Sirzy Most supermarkets have pedestrian access paths. These paths do not however (for obvious reasons) criss-cross the car parks. If there are supermarkets that don't have pedestrian access paths for customers entering on foot rather than parking then I would support the addition of those paths too. As well as P&C spaces. I hope that answers your question.

driving not parking

And the rest of the big bad world?

Different story if it was busy but it wasn't so yabu

Icantstopeating Yes. Sometimes I just read these threads and think - wtf - supermarkets have put measures in place to help protect the safety of your (our) children and people are moaning about that?? Like it's a bad thing??