To think where is the outrage to 15 British slaughtered in Tunisia

[Inkanta]

I think there was a time when the British would be outraged but are we numbing out to these atrocities now. We were outraged when ISIS started these beheadings and now we seem to be getting used to that as well.

[SoupDragon]

I'm not getting a reaction of outrage.

What reaction would be acceptable to you? Do tell.

Should we be outside weeping and wailing and beating our breasts or something?

[AuntieStella]

There is huge coverage: much more than for the mosque killing, French beheading, or the cilivilans killed by IS in Syria this week.

What additional 'outrage' did you expect to see, and what form would it take? And, possibly more importantly, do you think it is important as a public display of emotion? Or do you want it to influence policy? If so, what policy changes do you think should be up for consideration?

[Inkanta]

SoupDragon - I am worried that we as a country may get complacent and do nothing.

[AuntieStella]

Sorry that should have been 'mosque killings' as I read it was 27 dead, 200+ injured there.

[Somarefuser]

No public outrage? Were you expecting riots and demonstrations and a program? Against what? How effective would that be against the actual problems posed by ISIS?
There are a lot of distressed, outraged and shocked people, but I think the long-term consequences are going to be much harder to deal with.
Especially for immigrants and refugees and their families and descendents.
I have see public opinion getting more insular over the last couple of years, and it may end up as full-on xenophobia. Which will inform government policy. It's a much colder future for all of us if that happens.

'Their voices were even and low,
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show,
When the English began to hate.

It was not preached to the crowd,
It was not taught by the State.
No man spoke it aloud,
When the English began to hate.'

[hiddenhome]

If you organise a march, I'll come on it I'll even sign a petition.

But nothing will change. The government won't do anything. The EU won't do anything. The UN won't do anything.

Put the kettle on, vacuum the carpet and welcome them in. Heck, even screw a hook to the back of the door so they can hang their AK47s up

[DoloresLandingham]

The story is the front page splash of every national newspaper today. Newspapers have found out many identities of the dead but the names have not been officially released by the Foreign Office, nor has the final death toll been confirmed. The story is still happening.

[Kardamyli]

I think people are both outraged and disgusted by the actions of religious terrorists. Also agree with hidden that attacks are likely to continue. The whole western world needs to unite to rid our societies of the sorts of nut jobs who carry out such attacks. We should also be much more strict about who we let into the country - no more hate preachers for example. We also all need to stop being so worried about offending Muslims. They have no more rights than the rest of us and no special considerations should be given to anyone due to their chosen religion. Frankly, if you want to live in an Islamic country, Western Europe is not where you should be.

[Wideopenspace]

What is it that you want the country to do OP?

There is a real push in schools at the moment on recognising radicalisation in young people - we have more training and support from other agencies around this now than ever before. So the 'country' is not complacent.

Interestingly, media and public hysteria and 'outrage' about events like this is not seen as being terribly helpful by those involved in dealing with organisations such as ISIS or the NF.

[hiddenhome]

There's no such thing as the 'English' Som we're a nation of hybrids and immigrants ourselves. We're all imported from some other part of the world one way or another.

We have a long history if being invaded and taken over by others and we just sit around and let it happen.

[SirChenjin]

I don't think outrage is the emotion for this time. Shock, overwhelming grief and sadness seems more appropriate - and I can assure you, OP, I'm feeling all these things for the British people and everyone else who was killed in the name of Islam by these murderers in the last few days.

[hiddenhome]

We take apathy to new levels and are happy so long as we have our TVs, beer, football and busty blondes to leer at the population is too distracted, poorly educated or struggling financially to notice what's going on around them.

[fourmeatpies]

The government like complacency, it's what they've bread the citizens of the uk to accept.

[Stitchintime1]

Here. I feel outraged and scared and sad and angry. Is there anyone who doesn't? The beheading in France is chilling.

[ghostyslovesheep]

plenty of outrage and sympathy and sorrow on the streets of Sousse last night

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-33302564

also I will be outraged at the death of 39 people not simply of the 15 Brits

[Jasonandyawegunorts]

We take apathy to new levels and are happy so long as we have our TVs, beer, football and busty blondes to leer at sad the population is too distracted, poorly educated or struggling financially to notice what's going on around them.

Or, as Roger Waters put it:

We watched the tragedy unfold
we did as we were told
we bought and sold
it was the greatest show on earth
but then it was over
we ohhed and awed
we drove our racing cars
we ate our last few jars of caviar
and somewhere out there in the stars
a keen eyed look out
spied a flickering light
our last hurrah
The last hurrah
And when they found our shadows
Groups ‘round the TV sets
They ran down every lead
They repeated every test
They checked out all the data in their lists
And then the alien anthropologists
Admitted they were still perplexed
But on eliminating every other reason
For our sad demise
They logged the only explanation left
This species has amused itself to death!

[NoStannisNo]

Do you know what, I do know what you mean. I think it might be because the identities of the dead are not yet known so it doesn't seem 'real' or something. I'm sure in the coming days when things are released (and the Daily Mail starts trawling the FB pages of the deceased) it will become mkre real I guess?

And while 'people like us' sounds really bad, I think things do hit home more when there is a.good chance that it could have been you caught up in it I guess.

[ghostyslovesheep]

'we' - sorry speak for yourself!

[LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726]

Firstly OP, you're not a 'barometer' for outrage, you're not a 'poll' and your opinion of other peoples' opinions carries no weight.

Secondly, what are YOU personally doing about this other than posting impotently on a chatboard?

[TheHumblePotato]

OP, do you mean that we've become desensitised to all these atrocities as they've become so common place?

Thing is no organisation has an answer or a solution r.e. EU, UN etc. I heard on the news that Cobra had scheduled an emergency meeting and I found myself thinking well what's the point? What can they tangibly do? I think it's set to get worse and I suspect many many more people will lose their lives.

[SophieJenkins]

It's part of a much bigger and more serious picture is probably why.

[Signlake]

we seem to be getting used to that as well

I agree that some people are becoming desensitized to the murders carried out by ISIS. Though when there's something new in the media almost every single day about a new atrocity that they've carried out, I'm not too surprised

I'm getting more worried about the whole situation to be blunt. The attacks seem to be increasing and it's shocking that the holiday makers seem to be targeted just because they're British. I have no idea what can be done considering that some of these Islamic Extremists are most certainly in our country considering that so many of them fighting in Syria are British

[Inkanta]

'The government like complacency, it's what they've bread the citizens of the uk to accept'

fourmeatpies - I wondered that myself. And listening to Cameron's speech yesterday - I got a sense of complacency - it was lacking any real power and resolve.

[Dunkling]

I'm not outraged 15 British were slaughtered in Tunisia.

I'm outraged 39 people were slaughtered in Tunisia.

[Jasonandyawegunorts]

I wondered that myself. And listening to Cameron's speech yesterday - I got a sense of complacency - it was lacking any real power and resolve.

you get that with all of Camerons speeches, he's not very good at them.