To think where is the outrage to 15 British slaughtered in Tunisia

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I think there was a time when the British would be outraged but are we numbing out to these atrocities now. We were outraged when ISIS started these beheadings and now we seem to be getting used to that as well.

'OP, do you mean that we've become desensitised to all these atrocities as they've become so common place?'

Yes that's exactly what I mean.

Cameron is a PR man not an orator. And it seems that the foreign office has dropped the ball on this one.

It's all over the papers though, I'm not sure what more you expect?

'and it's shocking that the holiday makers seem to be targeted just because they're British. '

I think they were targeted as probably Western tourists rather than because of their specific nationality. The ones fighting in Syria see themselves as Muslims first and British a long way in second place.
I worked in a predominanty Muslim area of the UK during the first Gulf war, and most of the community were supporting Saddam against 'The West'

There have been so many things to be outraged at these days: the beheadings of innocent people, the massacre in a Pakistani school and so in. No tragedy is better or worse than another. The people who die are all someone's loved ones.
However what happened on Friday does touch a particular nerve because they are people like me and my family. I keep thinking about how scared they must have been., particularly children. I saw two girls on the news say there was a little boy whose parents were killed. It's just awful.

The gunman was targeting the North European-looking people.

I agree with OP but also with the poster who said the real reaction would be slow.

Jason

Wow, I like your verse on apathy.

I would like to see more outrage from Cameron and May.

and maybe some outrage for the deaths in Kuwait where 26 Muslims died

I would also like to see more outrage from British muslims.

I agree that there is a degree of apathy creeping into the wider reaction to terrorist acts, but I don't really understand why outrage is in any way helpful to be honest.

Condemnation and a maintenance of our society despite violent disapproval is, at the moment, all we really can do.

If I thought major demonstrations and public declarations would have any impact whatsoever on Isis's or any other terrorist organisations ethos and aims then I'd be all for it. But it doesn't.

Where should this outrage be directed to be effective in any meaningful way?

why? This wasn't an atrocity committed by British Muslims

are you personally sorry for the action of a white person on a black church a few weeks ago

Will this do you?
www.mcb.org.uk/mcb-condemns-day-of-violence/

I have a real problem with your title tbh.

Personally I couldn't care less that they were British. I feel outrage at people being slaughtered, wherever they were from.

Would it have been ok if it was only locals that were slaughtered? As long as they didn't get any of 'us'?

The World is our home and which bit of it you landed on is pure luck.

I feel outrage at people being slaughtered, wherever they were from

exactly

Would it have been ok if it was only locals that were slaughtered? As long as they didn't get any of 'us'?

I think it's a rather common feeling that when something like this happens it feels 'closer to home' and somehow worse for lots of people. It doesn't mean the OP couldn't care less about the other victims

You're missing the point, GreenAugustLion. We were the targets, we were singled out by appearance. Would you expect the victims in the recent US church shootings to be wringing their hands about anyone else? Of course not. That would be counterintuitive and daft.

Ghosty, that's not a very good analogy. Being born black, white, purple whatever is a matter of fact. Being Muslim is a choice. I don't follow any religion, but if one or more members of a club which I belong to committed a terrorist act in the name of the club I would most definitely be coming out and condeming their actions. The lack of condemnation against isis from Muslims often makes me think that deep down they approve of everything isis stands for.

I really do not understand that point flip flops.

'Where should this outrage be directed to be effective in any meaningful way?'

I see outrage is an energy force that leads to condemnation and pro-action.

Maybe the reaction process is slow and we will get there in the end, but I worry that desensitisation will take hold and we will remain complacent and apathetic.

Kardamyli - I don't know what stands out more to me about that post, you're bravery for posting it or your stupidity for believing it.

I can't help you then.

(To Green).

Kard many, many Muslims absolutely condemn ISIS - you thinking they approve deep down is bollocks.

The National Front is a rising problem in many of our cities in the UK - it is one of the areas of radicalisation of young people that is most problematic for our security services, right up there with ISIS. Do you daily express your OUTRAGE at the NF? No? Shall I assume that deep down, you agree with what they believe and their methods? No?

I've felt really upset all weekend about those poor people gunned down in Tunisia, I can't stop thinking about it or discussing it with people. When I looked at mail online there were stories and photos which helped me understand but next to a dead body is a photo of Kim Kardashian with Her boobs on show and I had to think "fgs what is this world coming to" .