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AIBU?

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Such an awful Gumtree job posting it must be a spoof

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LeopardIsTheNewBlack · 15/06/2015 12:29

www.gumtree.com/p/live-out-nanny-babysitting-jobs/-live-out-au-pair-to-look-after-my-autistic-son/1118133617

First of all live out au pairs don't exist, secondly this job doesn't even come close to paying minimum wage and the poster sounds quite menacing! Please tell me this was a Mumsnetter with too much time on their hairy hands who posted this as a joke?!

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LeopardIsTheNewBlack · 15/06/2015 13:08

Actually I think he should save his 130 a week and apply it to looking for a mail order bride.

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oddfodd · 15/06/2015 13:08

Bloody hell - that's crap :(

Sanity - would you really want a job when you never got Friday or Saturday night off, even if you were paid well?

He doesn't sound like he likes spending time with his kid very much - when does he see him?

I also happened across this gem: www.gumtree.com/p/live-out-nanny-babysitting-jobs/aupair-urgently-required/1117182814 where the allegedly single dad has illustrated the ad with a variety of photos of himself in various locations

spiderlight · 15/06/2015 13:10

Gosh, I wonder why he's single....

RedandYellow24 · 15/06/2015 13:11

Amazing really you have 1.5h in morning to

Shower, dress fed austitc child
Walk to and fro from school
AND spend a whole Hour cleaning!

Even if you lived exit door to school and could get child sorted in half hour seems very tight (impossible)

Does he offer free cardboard box to live in. Good bank vouchers and a free bus pass to get to work!

TheTravellingLemon · 15/06/2015 13:12

I don't know. If he can thoroughly clean my house and do all the laundry in under an hour I might give him a go .

Pumpkinpositive · 15/06/2015 13:15

There are a few other ads on the site for "live out au pairs."

One of them offers £150-200 "cash in hand" for a live out au pair for baby triplets - working from 8am until evening.

Is cash in hand legal for au pair work? Does this not suggest the au pair would have to register as self employed? No NI contributions etc from "employer"?

oddfodd · 15/06/2015 13:15

So is the house being thoroughly cleaned 6 days a week? How dirty can it get?

PennilynLott · 15/06/2015 13:19

The man in oddfodd's link lives VERY close to the original man. Are they friends who come up with shitty ideas together and act them out on gumtree? Is this a weird bride-finding scam?

HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 15/06/2015 13:24

It just gets weirder and weirder...

Icimoi · 15/06/2015 13:25

It's a bit ambiguous about the cooking - it says the requirement is to cook dinner for the son, but then talks about what the all-male household likes by way of food which implies that the au pair will be required to cook for everyone. It's also silent about the holidays - I bet the expectation is that the au pair does full days then.

To be fair, RedandYellow, he suggests a magnificent 3.5 hours to do all the tasks you list, provided of course you get there at 7 a.m. However, you have missed out the requirement to do the laundry including ironing.

Icimoi · 15/06/2015 13:26

I notice they all seem to want photos of the applicants. I wonder why that is?

NotYouNaanBread · 15/06/2015 13:26

It's totally the same guy - the addresses are like 3 minutes from each other. And while skin colour doesn't nec. mean anything, I bet it's the same person's hand holding the scooter as the guy in the other pictures. It's quite a big hand for a 9 year old, and that's the big micro scooter, although there is a child in the other picture.

Silverweed · 15/06/2015 13:26

Mmm, less than half the minimum wage I make that. Seems a shame that gumtree allow this kind of sh*t through in the first place

NotYouNaanBread · 15/06/2015 13:26

And passports. Is there any logical scam going on here?

undoubtedly · 15/06/2015 13:27

I don't think it seems too bad. He seems like someone who is trying to find the best fit for his son. I can appreciate that he has to be somewhat inflexible if his son likes routine.

It is long hours though... I'm wondering when the dad is planning on doing any childcare...

NotYouNaanBread · 15/06/2015 13:29

Undoubtedly - the job is fine in itself and if he's a single dad and working long hours to support his family in London then having great childcare is important. It's the slave labour part that is problematic.

PenguinBollards · 15/06/2015 13:30

"I notice they all seem to want photos of the applicants. I wonder why that is?"

I have my suspicions. I'm guessing the full 'duties' are somewhat longer and harder than are detailed in the ad

chocolateyay · 15/06/2015 13:31

'need a good sense of humour'. Yes, I think you'd need a good sense of humour to do that job.

MrsKoala · 15/06/2015 13:32

'A good sense of humour would be nice too.'

you'd fucking need it!

PenguinBollards · 15/06/2015 13:34

"I don't think it seems too bad. He seems like someone who is trying to find the best fit for his son."

Which bits don't seem to bad to you, then? The six-day week for an illegal and immorally low 'wage'? The necessity to do regular extra hours at the drop of a hat? The unrealistic/impossible expectations (thoroughly clean the house and do laundry in one hour)?

He's not trying to do the best by his son, he's trying to do the cheapest by his son.

LurkingHusband · 15/06/2015 13:36

Don't forget the benefit sanctions if you turn this job down ....

Patapouf · 15/06/2015 13:37

How can anyone live on £130 a week in Islington? What a knob.

Going rate for a nanny that has ASD training/experience is going to be at least £13/h there.

SanityClause · 15/06/2015 13:39

oddfodd, you've obviously never worked in the catering industry.

I haven't for a long time, but when I did, the hours were similar to these advertised ones. And the pay was shit. (Not as bad as this ad, though.)

BonzoDooDah · 15/06/2015 13:39

"we are an easy going and friendly family" THAT JUST DEMANDS THINGS IN CAPITALS FOR THE LAUGHS!
maybe

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LeopardIsTheNewBlack · 15/06/2015 13:43

Undoubtedly it wouldn't be an awful job if it was childcare before and after school at the going rate of a live out nanny. But it's not. I can speak from personal experience that if you are taking care of an autistic child you certainly can't simultaneously clean, cook, shop, iron and do laundry. And like others have pointed out he not only wants all of the above but is demanding a ten hour day on Saturdays and evening babysitting with no mention of pay.
Is the au pair supposed to stagger home after he gets home from the pub/trolling the Internet with his best mate African Prince at 11pm then show up the next morning at 7am to shower his son and cook a full breakfast and put in another 12 hour day? And let's face it, the time his son is in school isn't an unpaid break, it's time to clean, shop, iron, cook and do laundry.
I'm wondering if the plan is that if anyone is desperate enough to answer and has an EU passport that these two winners will suggested an arranged marriage/passport scam to the au pair??

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