AIBU to expect someone driving through a lion safari to have their car windows securely closed

[IAmAShitHotLawyer]

Seriously? Why would anyone be that reckess? Just why?

I've travelled around Africa through many safari parks in an open truck with no windows. Got very close to many dangerous animals. Seemed the done thing. Lots of others doing the same. I feel incredibly sorry for this woman, she didn't ask to die in such a horrific way.

But ovumhead, the animals you were viewing weren't used to their food being brought to them every day in cars, and there was probably a ranger with a gun in the car with you. Completely non-comparable.

Theyremad I suspect most tourists wouldn't know the difference

TheyreMad that's a very good point!

Pointless, pointless thread and in utterly bad taste. The only reason you have started it, IAmAShitHotLawyer, is to encourage people to berate the poor woman for having a momentary lapse in judgement (or even just a brain fart) which cost her her life.

Of course people should obey the rules in safari parks. And ???

Sad shes dead but it's Darwinism. I can't believe anyone could be that stupid.

If you were genuinely sad she's dead you'd show a bit more fucking respect Sawyer. Instead of having your snidey little say.

This whole thread is like saying "Aibu to expect parents not to leave their 4 year old and 18 month old twins alone for hours in an unlocked apartment whilst more than 5 minutes walk away while on holiday in Portgual"?

What is to be gained from it apart from bashing someone who has been monumentally unlucky?

I just can't believe the balls on either of them. I would be WAY to scared to open my car or even unlock it at one of these places, it was right near here car door!

I also can't believe how quickly it went for her, its very sad. She was young and its such a waste of a life.

But she was very unlucky, even professionals can be unlucky- look at poor Steve Irwin.

We're not supposed to discuss the circumstances involving people who've died or been killed?

mintyy op can start an thread she likes within guidelines set by MN. What a stupid post!

Snide little dig at the McCanns there disguised as a comparison

Hiddenhome

I suppose, if it's your thing, I wouldn't have a problem with an In The News thread discussing this story. With the emphasis on posting condolences and expressing sympathy.

But here we have a self-righteous AIBU thread title in the bear pit that is the AIBU topic. Not the right place to pick over the details of this case. Extremely bad taste!

And it has been in the news for several days now, so I am assuming the vast majority of Mumsnetters do not feel it is particularly hot topic for conversation. Luckily, most seem to have more sensitivity.

AnyoneforTennis

No, it wasn't a snide little dig at the McCanns. Stupid post yourself!

I cannot believe that there are people here expressing more sympathy for the silly woman than the poor, innocent, lion!

What has happened to the lioness? I missed that.

It clearly wasn't a smart thing to do, but how many of us with the benefit of hindsight can feel sick at the thought of some really stupid things we've done and got away with?
It's been done on here before, 'I can't now believe I did xyz, what a foolish thing to do, I was lucky ABC didn't happen!'

Now that the lioness has experienced killing a human, it may attract her to humans even more and she could be deemed even more of a threat and too hot to handle. I expect she'll be destroyed at some point in the future. It'll be done quietly without fuss when the media attention has settled down

Poor bloody animal.

Well this is an unedifying spectacle isn't it?

Hope not hidden

Of course they will. Can't have an animal like that around. They're only put there for entertainment after all.

My family would be naturally grief stricken if I'd died in such a terrible way.

But I think they'd be flabbergasted and angry at me too.

It's just incomprehensible.

"If you need to see through them for pictures, then open them the width of the camera lens, not the whole way."

No, please, no! Surely any gap would enable a large incredibly heavy animal to force the window down or break it.

And surely they can smell you more if the window is open even a crack.

If it says don't open the window, just don't . At all.

It was a stupid thing to do, no doubt, but the poor woman is dead for it.

I honestly think this generations obsession with photos is partly to blame. We seem to need photos of everything, 'selfies' with any object we come across, 'oh look here I am with a lion', 'here I am with my cocktail' 'here I am looking at something, but not really looking just having my photo taken'. No one seems to be able to just watch something. Who wants photos though a window of a lion, when you can get much better shots if you roll the window down? Well hopefully people will learn for this. No photo is worth your life.

There are plenty of people stupid enough to open a window in the lion enclosure, and plenty of other variations thereon.

I saw a lot of them whilst safari-ing extensively in Africa.

Most are lucky. It seems particularly odd to laugh at the ones who weren't.

The smuggery of some on this thread. A woman made an error in judgement and paid the ultimate price. It would be horrible if one of her loved ones came across a post like this online.

Sadly agree with you OrangeJuiceSandwich.