AIBU to expect someone driving through a lion safari to have their car windows securely closed

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Seriously? Why would anyone be that reckess? Just why?

YNBU IMO. Yes it's very sad that she lost her Life but there's clearly a reason for the signs in the first place. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I am asking whether people think its reasonable to drive through a lion safari with the window open.

Do you need several answers to ascertain that?
If we all said it was fine would you agree with the majority?
Is your field of law 'the bleeding obvious and lawsuits arising from'?

Ilovesooty - God I'd have been furious too! your Dad was madly reckless.

OF COURSE you should keep your windows closed. If you need to see through them for pictures, then open them the width of the camera lens, not the whole way.

Another tourist from Australia got bitten by a lion for doing the same thing - he was lucky to survive. It's a mad thing to do.
Not saying she deserved to die, of course she didn't poor woman - and she was just copying the driver who'd rolled his window down - but really, the signs are there for a reason.

I'm glad the park have refused to put the lion down - it was just being a lion, after all.

I don't think they think it's okay to do. I think they get caught up in the moment and want to take photos for the memories. But they are still wild animals and must be treated as such.

Such a distasteful post op.

I think people forget when the go to zoos/wildlife parks that the animals are still "wild" and not just there for your entertainment. I think this contributes to a lot of stupid behaviour from visitors and can allow cruelty/poor welfare standards to be ignored.

I do feel sorry for the woman in this story, and her family, but not as sorry as I feel for the lions.

I opened my window in the lion enclosure once, it was an accident but then because I was panicking I couldn't close it for what seemed like ages.

By all accounts she was an animal lover and intelligent and professional.
She had been volunteering at other reserves so perhaps she felt much more safe than she actually was given where she had been helping etc.
Poor lady :(

People don't realise how dangerous these animals are. They think they're just overgrown kitties. People are very far removed from nature now and don't believe the power it can whield.

I don't think anyone thinks it's ok OP. The lady made a mistake, has paid for it dearly. Not loving this thread

I have been on mumsnet for years and years, the OP's post is one of the most vile things I've ever read.

Clearly it was a serious error of judgement on the woman's part. On a different day she may have got away with it.
I guess she thought she would take a chance and had an idea that it may have been worked in her favour.
Unfortunately it wasn't to be.

She took a risk which was obviously a huge error in judgment. She has paid the ultimate price. I think it's clear to everyone that it wasn't a sensible thing to do. Do you really think anyone is going to come along and say 'yes, it was a great idea, might try it myself actually.' It seems you just want everyone to come and agree that what the woman did wasn't sensible. She has died as a result of her mistake. I agree that this is a vile thread.

Obviously it's not a sensible thing to do. But the poor woman paid the ultimate price

what a snippy unkind thread :(

she's dead

Err I never said "f you are stupid, you deserve to die?"

I said if you are that Stupid. then yes. sorry i have NO sympathy fo you.

it's a LION, not a fucking pussycat.

Very poor taste

C'mon people, it's useful for raising awareness. People might think twice now before opening their vehicle's windows under these circumstances.

Did you all have extra froth with your Sunday dinners?

All of us think it was very reckless behaviour.
Nearly all of us think it is NOT appropriate to gloat.
The poor woman paid with her life and her family will suffer deeply for a long time.

I don't agree it's distasteful.

The car was being driven by someone else. She risked their life and her own.

Two other families had to watch this. Pretty horrible for them to see?

Daresay the lion will be shot now. Nice.

It's the third attack in four months. Learn from others' mistakes?

Comfy I have been on mumsnet for years and years, the OP's post is one of the most vile things I've ever read.

Which post? Or do you mean the thread?The one about deserving to die? That wasn't the OP!

A few years ago at Woburn Safari Park I witnessed a young child maybe 4 with their head stuck through the rear car window whilst going through the Lion enclosure. Luckily nothing happened.
Having an open window is not the smartest thing to do, however, this poor woman has paid the ultimate price and I feel for all those involved.

We've been 'on safari' in South Africa, in a national park near to where this happened (at least the incident I assume you are referring to). We were taken in open topped, no-window land-rover-type vehicles. We were < 10 metres away from lions of a number of occasions.

This park is a kind of 'rescue' place I think, so maybe the lions are less predictable, but the rangers we were with assured us we were safe, as the lions knew the vehicles and so ignored us.

Fiveacres - the driver risked his own life by opening his own window first, and he tried to beat the lioness off the woman; and the park has said they won't destroy the lioness.