To think that Kris Jenner is wrong to let a 17 year old get extensive plastic surgery.

[Sneakysarah]

Kylie Jenner looks like a different person from a year ago. They believe she had a chin implant, nose job, cheek implants, lips and bum implants.

Aibu to think the mum is a bad parent for letting kylie get so much work done.

Aibu to think the mum is a bad parent for letting kylie get so much work done.

Has she no father then?

Has she no father then?

Not now, no.

How do we refer to Caitlyn in relation to her offspring - mother/father?

Err as her a father. Because she is her father! She changed her gender- not her relationship to her child!

I read somewhere the children still say dad and she's okay with that.

What a weird sentence the above is!

I think we call Caitlyn their father, but with female pronouns. I wonder what the kids call her though.

Because she is her father!

A father is by definition a man.

She changed her gender- not her relationship to her child!

I would agree she did not stop being a parent to Kylie. But whether CJ stopped being Kylie's father is somewhat less clear cut, surely? I was wondering whether referring to her as Kylie's mother would now be more appropriate - but that seems equally, if not more, problematic.

i lost a lot of respect for her parents after seemingly being ok with their 17 year old shagging a 25 yr old rapper. who has a kid there all terribly tarty looking ...and whats kin done to her face.

Both parents are to blame. If he sat back and let Kris control things to the point his teenage daughters were getting surgery, he is as much to blame.

I refer to him as he, for this thread, as this was all (apparently) done while she was still Bruce.

Xael- there's a lot more to successful parenting than the provision of money!

Tarty

Heaven forbid you would rather your girls concentrate on getting an education or something like doing charity work.

What's the long term effect of pumping your skin full of chemicals anyway? Guess we will find out in a few years when the class actions start in earnest (a la boob implants).

Xael they have effectively pimped their daughters out for fame. I'd prefer bankrupt but moral parents. Google was goes on in Dubai when these 'celebs' and models are there.

If the rumours are to be believed kris hasn't 'effectively' pimped out her daughters she has actually done it. Who knows though.

That girl in the pictures doesn't have a flat white girl's bum - she may have done once but now she has an inflated round bum that looks like it has implants like her sisters do. Her chin also looks completely different.

rumorfix.com/2015/03/kylie-jenner-butt-implants-see-photos/

What goes in in Dubai? I've googled but can't find anything.

I would also be interested to know what apparently goes on in Dubai

Xael do you have children?

Beautiful women but I pity them all

YANBU Kris and Caitlin Jenners parenting leave a lot to be desired.

Kylie left school at 14! From her tweets she's not what I would call literate. I don't understand why they aren't encouraging her to get an education.

I hope I'm way off the mark but with the family being so obsessed with appearances and narcissistic I could see kylie becoming like Alicia Douvall.

The fact that Kylie refers to Khloe as the mother in her life and wanting to move out as soon as she turns 18 says everything about her relationship with Kris x

Weren't they home schooled? I remember them talking about having a tutor?

Kris has managed to steer her daughters into being successful and solvent. I don't see how that's a bad thing.

Because all their money is based on ostentatious consumerism and the rating of looks and image to the detriment of any virtue.

Shame on them.

Xael

They never need the sort of fame they now have to achieve that. They lived in an extremely wealthy part of LA. They were never going to be the sort of people who had to worry about making ends meet. Nor apparently were they the sort of family who would ever have to worry about being educated.

I think this family are disgusting and vile and I cant for the life of me understand why anyone is interested in them? They are all awful, but the parents are particuarly hideous.