if you can't afford the children you have you shouldn't have more?

[Lady1nred]

was speaking to a couple I know today, both out of work and living on benifits. They have 3 children and they are very vocal about how awful it is that they barely get enough money to survive. It turn out that she is now pregnant with their 4th child! This was planned and they are delighted?! They use food banks and thir children have every gadget and toy known to man!

When I asked how on earth they will manage with another child she blatantly said the money they recieve will go up and that it is her right to have as many children as she likes?!!

I have 2DC, I would love a 3rd but we would struggle finNcislly so have made the decision not to. I believe benifits should be capped at 2 children, she obviously doesn't agree! If she can't afford to pay for the children she has why should I go without yet pay for hers through my taxes? AIBU?

Yes, it was shit. Yes, my parents should have stuck at two kids rather than 4. Yes, we struggled for bloody years. I was in my late teens before my Mum went off to Uni and qualified as a teacher. Am I now supposed to be bitter and twisted and think children in a similar situation should be crapped on because of the mistakes their parents have made? I don't operate like that I'm afraid. I would prefer that children living in poverty get all the help they can.

Anyone saying benefits should be taken from children living in poverty is a disgrace. I work in a school and see children every day that live with shit parents and children who have been removed from shirt parents. The thought of those children having to endure further shit just to appease that's who bleat on about 'my taxes' makes me sick.

It's a totally can't is attitude. I would personally love to see my taxes pay for people with those attitudes to be put on a rocket and fired off into space. Go and repopulate, with your perfect little families and bitter outlooks, elsewhere.

luis that made me laugh.

put kids in care because their parents are on benefits. its very sad/heartless that even entered someones head :(

Oh god! 4 by 3, 6 by 4, 12 by 11 is this a competition?

I know a woman with 17 by 22

I have to ask...Does the number of fathers actually matter? Or is that simply included in order to tar the women's characters?

Ptolemy, accepting it is not the same as actively encouraging it. People are always going to make poor choices, there are lots of things we can try and do as a society to reduce that, but there will always be a number of people who will do things like have children they can't afford.

And any approach that tries to punish the adults involved for doing so actually punishes the children. It's not their fault that their parents made poor choices. If you refuse to support the children, it might teach the adults a lesson. But then the children will have a much worse life.

Sometimes you have to accept things you don't like in a system to ensure it works for the worst off, the most vulnerable. If there were easy answers we wouldn't be having the discussion.

It's a totally can't is attitude. I would personally love to see my taxes pay for people with those attitudes to be put on a rocket and fired off into space. Go and repopulate, with your perfect little families and bitter outlooks, elsewhere

Yes Mrs DV. Kids don't cost much do they? And I got her next door to look after my lot. She only has 6 so what's another dozen? Kids = money. Innit?

i have 9 kids by 12 different fathers

Ooh, I have the solutions!

1. Bring back the workhouse

1. Forced sterilisation

I suspect some twats posters on this thread are skirting around those answers anyway.

Well how?? These loving parents who keep having more kids will always put their kids first and spend their benefits on food for them won't they?? Because they are such 'loving parents' ... And if they are in care, as suggested up thread I still ask, how would they go hungry?? Yes I have to ask because I've never known kids in care to go hungry!

Or is that simply included in order to tar the women's characters?

Ding ding ding

These loving parents who keep having more kids will always put their kids first and spend their benefits on food for them won't they??

Because the suggestion was to stop the benefits after 2 children. You cant feed love!

It's the goat's morals I worry about most. How many wee Billies has he fathered? Loose!

DD has 17 fathers. Do I win?

But does she have all the gadgets chicken? It matters.

Alas, no. My TV is distinctly smaller than the benefits average, but to compensate, I do let her chuck about my posh mobile phone that adds Hs to 'fuckwit'.

chicken can be a runner up

Ah well, I tried to be the best bike I could.

drinks benefits wine

chicken pretty sure benefits wine is lambrini (correct me if I'm wrong, not a wine fan, although I am on benefits)

I thought lambrini was teenager wine? This particular benefits wine is a Bulgarian merlot from Tesco. Less than £4 a bottle .

as I said I wouldn't know, I don't drink. Pregnant and if I was to have a drink it would be vodka.

That's the difference, you are responsible people who have children they can afford, unfortunately your friend is a member of the 'knock another one out and claim more money' club! Until someone has the guts to stop child benefit at two children it will continue!

Benefits wine. :o

La'shamed Chardonnay

Brewed from the sweat of hard working tax payers since 1945

Best served with doner kebabs and chips